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davek said:
I'm not being confrontational here Groucho, but for me (and I think I echo the thoughts of many other Evertonians) Roberto is already our 'saviour'. The football we played the last couple of decades has been borderline shameful to me. I'd never feel ashamed of Everton, but the football was an embarrassment most of the time. We'd been consigned to the 'long ball' club category and forgotten about...and to be quite honest, I wouldn't have blamed neutrals switching off their tvs by the millions if we'd have been a live game on the telly. But now we play in our own traditions again. We're back with a bang as one of the best (probably the best) football teams in this league. He's done that far more quickly than I ever anticipated.

My first posts concerning RM when he arrived were that he'd face his biggest fight not on the pitch but off it. I knew that the culture had to be changed and that it'd be a mammoth battle given the direct approach that previous managers, especially Moyes, had adopted and which many of our support had been weaned upon. Sadly, that was bang on the money. He's struggled to win the PR war in the media where Moyes' old mates have had it in for him since the day he arrived and he's had to face down the element of our support who seem to think launching the ball quickly from the back is the right (Everton) way of doing things.

So whatever he does and whatever happens from this point on, at the very least Martinez has dragged this club back to its own traditions and struggled to change the culture of the club.
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Don't get me wrong, if he sorts the defensive issues out I'm happy to keep him and think we'd win stuff.

I'm in danger of turning this into another Roberto thread. Bugger.
 

daz4matty said:
He has been ill thats common knowledge.
Martinez is taking us backwards as you well know
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The seriousness of his health isnt so its not right to speculate.

And sometimes you have to take 1 step back before 2 forward. He has his long term plan which the club are invested in, he'll get time
 
davek said:
I'm not being confrontational here Groucho, but for me (and I think I echo the thoughts of many other Evertonians) Roberto is already our 'saviour'. The football we played the last couple of decades has been borderline shameful to me. I'd never feel ashamed of Everton, but the football was an embarrassment most of the time. We'd been consigned to the 'long ball' club category and forgotten about...and to be quite honest, I wouldn't have blamed neutrals switching off their tvs by the millions if we'd have been a live game on the telly. But now we play in our own traditions again. We're back with a bang as one of the best (probably the best) football teams in this league. He's done that far more quickly than I ever anticipated.

My first posts concerning RM when he arrived were that he'd face his biggest fight not on the pitch but off it. I knew that the culture had to be changed and that it'd be a mammoth battle given the direct approach that previous managers, especially Moyes, had adopted and which many of our support had been weaned upon. Sadly, that was bang on the money. He's struggled to win the PR war in the media where Moyes' old mates have had it in for him since the day he arrived and he's had to face down the element of our support who seem to think launching the ball quickly from the back is the right (Everton) way of doing things.

So whatever he does and whatever happens from this point on, at the very least Martinez has dragged this club back to its own traditions and struggled to change the culture of the club.
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That is a load of rubbish. Our fans are enjoying the attacking football. They are just not enjoying watching a team that has zero defensive ability.

They are rightly concerned that he inherited one of the best defences in the league and after 2 and a half years it is now one of the worse. What's more concerning is that at no stage in his career has Martinez demonstrated that he is capable of managing a team that can defend.

As soon as we made it 3-2 on Monday I had a feeling that we might (actually is was probably) not hold onto the lead. It is not acceptable that a 4-3 home defeat to Stoke no longer shocks the fans.
 
For me, thoughts on Martinez aside, if the options were Hughes, Pulis, Allardyce etc, I'd seriously consider Duncan Ferguson. I know that may not be everyone's opinion and I'm not saying he'd be exceptional and he has no experience but he does at least love Everton.

But ideally the options would be the elite.
 
sageyefc said:
The seriousness of his health isnt so its not right to speculate.

And sometimes you have to take 1 step back before 2 forward. He has his long term plan which the club are invested in, he'll get time
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He will be seen through straight away and rightly so.
The new owners won't have the patience for his shut your eyes management style.
 

balggy said:
That is a load of rubbish. Our fans are enjoying the attacking football. They are just not enjoying watching a team that has zero defensive ability.

They are rightly concerned that he inherited one of the best defences in the league and after 2 and a half years it is now one of the worse. What's more concerning is that at no stage in his career has Martinez demonstrated that he is capable of managing a team that can defend.

As soon as we made it 3-2 on Monday I had a feeling that we might (actually is was probably) not hold onto the lead. It is not acceptable that a 4-3 home defeat to Stoke no longer shocks the fans.
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I thought at 3-2 there is no way we will hold on to this, & at 3-3 I just knew we would throw it away, like my son said to me, it's bloody annoying !!

To be fair, Bojan, Arnautovic & Shaqiri were to good for us !!
 

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