If Silva is sacked - who could/should we get?

[bicycleheader]

Let's say you're right sir... but who?

I am right

But I dunno who

I like Quique Setien at Betis, but maybe Silva might still surprise us all.

But main point is no more % football. We have had too much of it over the last 15yrs. We need somebody to provide an actual football playing attacking Everton whilst maintaining a decent defense. The first manager to get that to happen consistently over a couple seasons will win us a trophy.

Moyes and Dyche are horrific shouts. Soz

 

[APN_EFC]

Moyes was suited to the Everton he walked into.

He isn't suited to a team/club actually looking to achieve more than being best of the rest.

Percentage football is too limited and he is too limited as a manager. You are just reaching for a comfort blanket in hard times.

Dyche is another percentage football manager. Extremely limited.

Howe....I honestly haven't a clue. Great achievement in solidifying Bournemouth in the top league but seems as capable of horrific runs of form as he is of getting surprise wins and solid runs during the season.

We need somebody to build with progressive football in mind. Not clean sheet and hope to grab a goal and the win. We need to think long term and not short term. We are stabilising after some terrible decisions over the last few years.

If it's not going to be Silva next season then we need somebody like that but better. Not absolute football dinosaurs like Moyes and Dyche.

I think the argument about Moyes fitting with the club only goes up to this point - now we need more than top 8 and I don't think he's got the confidence or tactics for that. He may well be a good fit for us, but he proved at Man U that he was not ambitious and didn't talk or behave like a winner, and that ultimately must have filtered through very quickly to the rest of the club. will be a big mistake going back to Moyes.

 

[APN_EFC]

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This still looks like a fake joke photo to me. I so wish it were true.

 

[APN_EFC]

Yup, same points as Marco by this stage of the season... and that's factoring in Koeman's horror show.

I wouldn't want him back (Tosun and Wallcott haven't really fired either)... but would still value an up and coming British or 'Everton' man over Marco.

I note that through 'the mixer' of the mid-table merry go round we're about to arrive at our correct berth of best of the rest, which'll alleviate the pressure on mumbling fumbling silva.

For me, with cups gone, safety mostly assured and half the squad fit to leave IMHO, it's an ideal time for Brands to say to Marco play the kids. Let's really learn what value there over the next 5 months in our U21 & U23. Baningime, Davies, DCL, Dowell, Kenny fine - what about a few others. And FFS sell off all the deadwood of which there is a lot.

I would normally agree with an Everton man, but then the point is that Everton men - apart from Cahill and Arteta who may or may not be good coaches - are not winners. We dont know if any of them will be able to transform our 'plucky little under achievers Everton' culture into a proper winning, ambitous , confident club culture

But on the other hand, I totally agree that it's time to play the U20 WC winners, the U23 team players, and to really test them out to see if they are hungry and ambitous. We'll still get 7th-9th place either way, may as well do it with some useful info for the future.

 

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I would normally agree with an Everton man, but then the point is that Everton men - apart from Cahill and Arteta who may or may not be good coaches - are not winners. We dont know if any of them will be able to transform our 'plucky little under achievers Everton' culture into a proper winning, ambitous , confident club culture

But on the other hand, I totally agree that it's time to play the U20 WC winners, the U23 team players, and to really test them out to see if they are hungry and ambitous. We'll still get 7th-9th place either way, may as well do it with some useful info for the future.

That smells too much like common sense to me.

 

[evertony]

Sutton is second only to Garth crooks as the biggest tit on tv

Danny Murphy says ‘Hi’

 

[Rob17896]

One type of manager it can't be, one of those managers who may be doing well at the likes of Wolves etc, a flavour of the month (just like Silva) it has to be someone with loads of experience, who's won trophies, who that is, I don't know, but that is why Brands is paid big bucks.

Silva should be judged on HIS team and there is a big clearout that has to happen before he gets it

 

[Rob17896]

How long til Big Dunc is qualified enough?

Never.

 

[Rob17896]

We won't get any manager with real ambitions. The people who really run this club don't have any ambition so why would any manager with it come here? That's why we can only get also-rans who are content to play pasty for the powers that be. We'll only get another no-mark in when Silva gets the bullet, we can only hope that he serves up a slightly better level of garbage then the last four clowns have.

Of course they have ambition. With the best plans in the world life is pretty random but also cyclical. Our time will come. The Alex Fergusons of this world are one-offs. Pep is not all that considering budget. Top four guarantee with that money. Klopp is pretty good but not infallible. Let Silva get his own team then judge. Bit to go yet.

 

[Tel001]

Danny Murphy says ‘Hi’

He’s up there but Sutton speaks proper tripe basically as bad as crooks but crooks also has the weird accent, face and I’m convinced the only reason he has a job with bbc is because he’s black.
Murphy is a massive weapon tho , tbh 90% of them are in some way or another . Reid was good and honest and always respectful of other teams. I don’t mind Ian Wright, I mean he doesn’t hide his opinions and let’s wveryone know who his team are, souness is actually ok and just says how it is no matter who the club or player is.

 

[Hibbo]

Pen in hand, ready to sign the contract.

 

[Hibbo]

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Of course they have ambition. With the best plans in the world life is pretty random but also cyclical. Our time will come. The Alex Fergusons of this world are one-offs. Pep is not all that considering budget. Top four guarantee with that money. Klopp is pretty good but not infallible. Let Silva get his own team then judge. Bit to go yet.

If they had real ambition they wouldn't look to managers like Koeman and Silva as viable options. I perfectly understand that we're not gonna get an Alex Ferguson, I'd just like somebody who's better then Championship manager done good standard like the last four fools we've had have been at. At best I'll be charitable and say they've got ambition but no idea how to peruse it so they're just throwing crap at the walls hoping it's sticks, hence going from Martinez to Koeman to Rhino to BFS to Silva without any clear plan.

All very well saying let Silva build his team but I've seen NOTHING, absolutely nothing this season that suggests he has the slightest clue what he's doing. In the list of our recent managerial disasters, he's the worst of the bunch and that's saying somthing. He won't be here this time next year. Even if he staggers over the line this season, he'll be gone before Christmas, he had good money to spend in the summer and has took us backwards. I had extremely limited expectations for him this season. An improved style which he's failed, passing around the back is no more entertaing then BFS hoofball. Maintain the bang average results set by BFS, again fail as we've got worse. And not be humiliated in the cups, fail. Out againt a woeful Southampton side on pens thanks to the manager arrogant team selection and then one of the worst showings from an Everton team in recent years at Millwall. He's failed on every conceivable level this season to maintain the extremely low targets a gone could of had for him. I'm up for getting a manager and sticking with him long-term but I'd like said manager to have a clue what he's doing and not be frighteningly out of his depth unlike Silva who doesn't and is.

 

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And gets us relegated. Great story!

 

[Rob17896]

If they had real ambition they wouldn't look to managers like Koeman and Silva as viable options. I perfectly understand that we're not gonna get an Alex Ferguson, I'd just like somebody who's better then Championship manager done good standard like the last four fools we've had have been at. At best I'll be charitable and say they've got ambition but no idea how to peruse it so they're just throwing crap at the walls hoping it's sticks, hence going from Martinez to Koeman to Rhino to BFS to Silva without any clear plan.

All very well saying let Silva build his team but I've seen NOTHING, absolutely nothing this season that suggests he has the slightest clue what he's doing. In the list of our recent managerial disasters, he's the worst of the bunch and that's saying somthing. He won't be here this time next year. Even if he staggers over the line this season, he'll be gone before Christmas, he had good money to spend in the summer and has took us backwards. I had extremely limited expectations for him this season. An improved style which he's failed, passing around the back is no more entertaing then BFS hoofball. Maintain the bang average results set by BFS, again fail as we've got worse. And not be humiliated in the cups, fail. Out againt a woeful Southampton side on pens thanks to the manager arrogant team selection and then one of the worst showings from an Everton team in recent years at Millwall. He's failed on every conceivable level this season to maintain the extremely low targets a gone could of had for him. I'm up for getting a manager and sticking with him long-term but I'd like said manager to have a clue what he's doing and not be frighteningly out of his depth unlike Silva who doesn't and is.

That was all I was saying, which you kind of agree to. They do have ambition but so far has not gone to plan. Believe me, I am being charitable because that Millwall game was as humiliating as Tranmere at home all those years back.