If Silva is sacked - who could/should we get?

[trueblue10]

I don't know who but I'd like someone experienced, say 10-15 years plus in management, and someone with snide.

I prefer authoritarian, cranky managers who can put a poker up someone's backside as well as rile the opposition.

Perhaps if we acknowledge the state we are in and look for someone who can address that whilst at the same time wanting to progress the club?

It wouldn't be a galactico manager and for various reasons that's not what we need anyway.

Conte would be my ideal in a fantasy world - I love his passion. We need a big character on the touchline.

There is this template now that managers must be young, foreign, and progressive but that doesn't always make for the right choice.

Didn't we just bin this type of manager off in June?

 

[davids]

Just read that Mosh has said that he is going nowhere and that it is a long term project. Is this the dreaded vote of confidence or have we got to accept that we are stuck with him. End of thread till next season?

Bolton away could be a good day out...if they stay up.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

The one thing about Moyes was he wouldn't have players going out and not putting in a shift, walking round the pitch, he knew that when players put that blue shirt on they were playing for the fans, and he expected those players to respect that, he was passionate on the line, when decisions went against us he would go on one, and this transferred to the players. Obviously he had his bad points "Knife to a gun fight" etc, but his commitment and passion could never be questioned.

Would I have him back, no, I just think you should never go back. I just wish we could have an ounce of his, and his Everton teams fighting spirit though.

 

[Rob17896]

So out of the starting 11 he seems too favour 5 of those are his players, so who else out of what's left get binned before he can be judged?

Pickford
Coleman
Keane
Zouma
Digne
Gana
Gomes
Sigurddson
Richarlison
Bernard
Walcott/Lookman

For me Coleman and Gana would be enough, and a little more time. I have no idea (along with us all) how it will turn out but it is just too early to make a definitive judgement. If we were in danger of going down then of course, that is different. But Brands, along with Silva can't transform a club in such a short time.

 

[CRIMHEAD]

Pellegrini, on paper, hasn't got a significantly better first 11 than us. He did have an outstanding central mid in Rice, a real LB in Cresswell and Anderson in front of him against Liverpool last night. But otherwise, our current deadbeats should be superior man for man. What Pellegrini brings is authority, respect and a haul of recent managerial honours. We by contrast have never taken this approach in our managerial appointments. And our bunch of egos inflated by their undeserving price tags, it appears, show no respect to their perceived lesser managers. Cue the disinterested body language, lack of any team togetherness on pitch and half arsed performances with the chips are down.

Why on earth would we want to model West Ham in any way?

 

[CRIMHEAD]

So out of the starting 11 he seems too favour 5 of those are his players, so who else out of what's left get binned before he can be judged?

Pickford
Coleman
Keane
Zouma
Digne
Gana
Gomes
Sigurddson
Richarlison
Bernard
Walcott/Lookman

Well, out of that group, the worst players are Coleman, Keane, Walcott, and Pickford (at least this year).

My guess is that at least 3 of those won’t feature next year.

 

[Rob17896]

He’s up there but Sutton speaks proper tripe basically as bad as crooks but crooks also has the weird accent, face and I’m convinced the only reason he has a job with bbc is because he’s black.
Murphy is a massive weapon tho , tbh 90% of them are in some way or another . Reid was good and honest and always respectful of other teams. I don’t mind Ian Wright, I mean he doesn’t hide his opinions and let’s wveryone know who his team are, souness is actually ok and just says how it is no matter who the club or player is.

Think Ian Wright is the best of them by a long shot. Crooks is just a strange, weird bundle of meaningless enthusiasm, of all of them, the strangest. You can't say he got the job because of his colour though. Most of them are beyond explanation.

Lawro is like a distant Auntie who is preserved in a bungalow in Llandudno. I think his real name is Sylvia.

 

[Papa Shango]

The one thing about Moyes was he wouldn't have players going out and not putting in a shift, walking round the pitch, he knew that when players put that blue shirt on they were playing for the fans, and he expected those players to respect that, he was passionate on the line, when decisions went against us he would go on one, and this transferred to the players. Obviously he had his bad points "Knife to a gun fight" etc, but his commitment and passion could never be questioned.

Would I have him back, no, I just think you should never go back. I just wish we could have an ounce of his, and his Everton teams fighting spirit though.

Wigan in the cup.

Fellaini literally just threw his arms up in the air and gave up after around the hour mark.

Of course he was already mentally gone by then.

Oh and 0-7 vs Arsenal. I would have sacked him before he got to the dressing room but I am a hard taskmaster.

 

[Verbal Kint]

The one thing about Moyes was he wouldn't have players going out and not putting in a shift, walking round the pitch, he knew that when players put that blue shirt on they were playing for the fans, and he expected those players to respect that, he was passionate on the line, when decisions went against us he would go on one, and this transferred to the players. Obviously he had his bad points "Knife to a gun fight" etc, but his commitment and passion could never be questioned.

Would I have him back, no, I just think you should never go back. I just wish we could have an ounce of his, and his Everton teams fighting spirit though.

Totally airbrushing the history books..

Without thinking to much all i need to think about are the anfield derby games. They weren't glory days by any means. He did well but he was a master at overplaying his own achievements. 3 manager of the year awards and not one trophy.

Good times

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Totally airbrushing the history books..

Without thinking to much all i need to think about are the anfield derby games. They weren't glory days by any means. He did well but he was a master at overplaying his own achievements. 3 manager of the year awards and not one trophy.

Good times

I never said they were glory days under Moyes, and I mention he had his bad points like "Knife to a gunfight" and his mentality when we played one of the so called big teams. The point I was referring to was his passion and attitude, how the way players would fight for the cause under him, we could do with some of that now instead of the soulless manager and players we have now, who look like they can't even be arsed to put in any effort, walking round feeling sorry for themselves like a bunch of cowardly pussies.

When Moyes was with us I wasn't actually a big fan of his and would criticise him frequently. The thing is though, when you look back at his league finishes, and the measly budgets for transfer he had to live with (compared to what Koeman and Silva had/have) then he didn't too badly at all.

 

[Neiler]

Leon Osman - Player Manager.

 

[welshtoffee]

Lawro is like a distant Auntie who is preserved in a bungalow in Llandudno. I think his real name is Sylvia.

I have an Aunty Sylvia living in Llandudno, no it cannot be can it !!!

 

[Lanolin]

The one thing about Moyes was he wouldn't have players going out and not putting in a shift, walking round the pitch, he knew that when players put that blue shirt on they were playing for the fans, and he expected those players to respect that, he was passionate on the line, when decisions went against us he would go on one, and this transferred to the players. Obviously he had his bad points "Knife to a gun fight" etc, but his commitment and passion could never be questioned.

Would I have him back, no, I just think you should never go back. I just wish we could have an ounce of his, and his Everton teams fighting spirit though.

I know someone who played under Moyes and he always says that this was his great skill as a manager. According to him, the players didn't love him, but they respected him and loved playing for him, because he was straight with you and expected exactly the same things from all his players. He didn't care if you were a 19 year old making your debut, a journeyman pro, or the star of the team, he expected you to put a shift in and follow instructions. If you did, he was happy, if you didn't you heard about it.

*edit* My personal opinion is this is why he failed at United, because their players didn't buy into that mentality and some players thought they were above others. He didn't know how to deal with that and so the whole thing fell apart for him.

 

[BernieH]

Ratcliffe and Sharpe dream team

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Wigan in the cup.

Fellaini literally just threw his arms up in the air and gave up after around the hour mark.

Of course he was already mentally gone by then.

Oh and 0-7 vs Arsenal. I would have sacked him before he got to the dressing room but I am a hard taskmaster.

There were bad times under Moyes mate, I was never his biggest fan in his last few years, and I regularly criticised him, I was just pointing his passion, and expecting players to put a shift in.