"Is David Moyes Really As Good As People Make Out?"

[steken1]

Also think your a bit harsh on Joe, yes we started poorly due to a terrible injury list, theres no way we were going down that year

 

[RFUS]

Beckford was shocking!!! I would have put Jan Mucha up front if it meant getting that dipstick off the pitch.

He was very poor but he was being asked to play a role he physically isn't built to do.

It's just another case of Moyes putting square pegs into round holes. The only round peg in the team is Cahill.

 

[Mick Ocallaghan]

Why is it that simple that we would go down if he left? It's not like the players all play for him, if I'm wrong tell me why were usually out of everything by Jan and get knocked out of cups by no mark sides?

If he's such a great motivator why do we start seasons so poorly?

Theres a hundred managers who would and could finish 7-8th with our squad, thats all the so called messiah has done for the past two years. He kept a poor side up when he took over and he has had one remarkable season since which he deserves enormous credit for, but in my eyes his credit has run out. That was over 5 years ago.

The luxury of time is not something the majority enjoy, he's had a decade and got us nothing but pity

Who are these managers? Who would willingly come in to the situation he is in.
As much as this is a big club. Its the team he has over acheived with, the are all his players i know but they are what he could afford at any given time, and although the first team is a really good team,he cant afford strength in depth cos the club is being run like a ball of ****e.
If you believe some of the names we supposely lost out in because of money, we could really be challenging, and this thead wouldnt exist.

 

[Mick Ocallaghan]

We can and we would do better than them, thats why I don't understand your assertion that we would go down as if nobody would want to come to Everton.

Lots of big names would look at potential and think I could do a lot with those players, money or not.

Don't let that miserable fool tell you were a small club who will be lucky to finish top 10. As his own captain siad only Pienaar has left and we were tipped for fourth or better.

There is potential, but no strength in depth. Of course there would be someone to come in, but not the big name this club deserves, we cant afford it.

 

[thebluefox]

He was very poor but he was being asked to play a role he physically isn't built to do.

It's just another case of Moyes putting square pegs into round holes. The only round peg in the team is Cahill.

do you mean like asking a 17 year old kid to make his debut ,in a role hes never played before ,sean derry ffs ran the midfield

 

[Mick Ocallaghan]

He was very poor but he was being asked to play a role he physically isn't built to do.

It's just another case of Moyes putting square pegs into round holes. The only round peg in the team is Cahill.

Ah, he is a big enough lad to do it, he just has the touch of a rapist. Moyes can get it wrong any manager can, but if cahill had of banged in his couple of good chances, and we got the peno's would this thread exist.

The anger in this great club should be pointed elsewhere not Moyes.

 

[Mick Ocallaghan]

do you mean like asking a 17 year old kid to make his debut ,in a role hes never played before ,sean derry ffs ran the midfield

Barkley was man of the match FFS!!!!

 

[Xavi]

He was very poor but he was being asked to play a role he physically isn't built to do.

It's just another case of Moyes putting square pegs into round holes. The only round peg in the team is Cahill.

First of all what's his build got to do with his touch , his touch is shambolic and secondly Tim Cahill gets in the way of all our good football going forward , I love Tim but sadly now he's just a last ten minute player for me (impact sub , the whole balance has to be changed to compensate him , we need to stick to 4-4-2 at home with Saha and hopefully Yakubu to stand any chance of achieving anything this season

 

[steken1]

Who are these managers? Who would willingly come in to the situation he is in.
As much as this is a big club. Its the team he has over acheived with, the are all his players i know but they are what he could afford at any given time, and although the first team is a really good team,he cant afford strength in depth cos the club is being run like a ball of ****e.
If you believe some of the names we supposely lost out in because of money, we could really be challenging, and this thead wouldnt exist.

If never losing out for players applied to every side in the premier league we'd all be great thats not how it works. Every manager has constraints to work within, it's only Moyes who seems to skulk about and grumble. Redknapp hasn't spent a bean either and he's not saying Spurs will be lucky to finish top 10.

If you can't think of a load of manager's who would happily come to us and work for 3.25 mill a year with a great first team, fabled youth set-up and big fan base then you need to open your eyes mate.

We never lost this week becasue of money

 

[thebluefox]

Barkley was man of the match FFS!!!!

lad dont tell me about barkley ive been banging on about the kid for over 18months ,stevie fuken wonder can see the kid needs to be playing center mid ,de know were osman was supposed to be playing on saturday, were sean fuken derry never gave him a kick ,the kids wants the ball all the time and can use it, derry would not of got near him .just 1 last thing about moyes the kid should of been brought off with 25 to go sat cause he was dead on his feet ,but the great moyes does not see it

 

[Gwladys Nights]

thanx tubbs,mark hughes on lescott, talks r still going on ,moyes there is no one higher than me there r no talks going on , the all time classic wayne rooney leaves this club over my dead body ,well in moyes lad

Those things mean he lies about outgoing transfers, or at least makes guarantees he can't keep. I wonder how many millions his hardline public stance on Lescott added to his eventual transfer fee.

Why is that evidence that he thinks he's bigger than the club? What does that even mean anyway?

 

[Great Dane]

Good article from EB again. I agree with his idea of a 4-2-3-1 with Arteta, Osman and Barkley behind Saha and with Fellaini holding.

I hate doing these formation thingies but to convey my point, I'd love to see this some time:

Howard
Coleman, Jagielka, Distin, Baines
Fellaini, Rodwell
Barkley, Osman, Arteta
Saha

That is good line-up - I really like it, ball-winners behind ball-players, wing-backs that can add width and a striker that can create things on his own, the only problem is that Saha will only be fit for 10 games or so.

 

[MoreCows]

Moyes is still the best man for the job. He's done the right thing keeping the best players here and giving them another shot.

 

[chaser]

Are people suggesting that Moyes shouldn't have full control over transfers? All this means is that a player won't be sold behind his back a la Johnson/Ferguson. Jesus, some people have short memories.

 

[Mick Ocallaghan]

If never losing out for players applied to every side in the premier league we'd all be great thats not how it works. Every manager has constraints to work within, it's only Moyes who seems to skulk about and grumble. Redknapp hasn't spent a bean either and he's not saying Spurs will be lucky to finish top 10.

If you can't think of a load of manager's who would happily come to us and work for 3.25 mill a year with a great first team, fabled youth set-up and big fan base then you need to open your eyes mate.

We never lost this week becasue of money

I never said we lost this week because of money. Im saying i dont think people wanting Moyes out is unjustified.
I dont see moyes skulking about either, its every pundit every week thats saying what he is working with is a hard situation.
Arry brought in players and has spent millions to pick spurs up off there arse since he took over. Moyes cant do that.