Is everyone over reacting?

[billyblue80]

Yes because to be frank we are bad enough to deserve Big Sam. Scream at the board and players for bringing us to this point Sam is here to keep us up, crying over it misses the point.

 

[Lord Buckethead]

at least it's not Mark Hughes

You are maybe forgetting it was Hughes who stabilised Man City and got them into the position where they could start to attract Top players and Managers like Mankini and Robinho.
If Fat Sam does a similar job for us I will not be disappointed.

 

[billyblue80]

For me the dislike of Allardyce is simple. For me it's not the person,, it comes down to hope and ambition.

A new manager brings hope that there maybe a perfect fit, a spark that brings success. With Allardyce, there is no hope, he has a track record over the years of getting by. No hope exists, just promise of a mediocre league finish.

It's bad enough starting a season in the sky era, knowing it's going to go down to the size of the cheque book, and the media will only ever cover and laud 6 clubs, when we've been the 7th. But the promise of a man who has only ever achieved mediocre, apart from in his own head, rather saps the soul of any reason to continually show an interest.

How did you cope with eleven years of Moyes

 

[Gladystweet]

How did you cope with eleven years of Moyes

Simple, we just coped....

 

[Papa Shango]

This is a myth.... in no way is he a decent manager

By those standards we have not had a decent manager since Joe Royle.

 

[Papa Shango]

No mate, there’s zero evidence and zero chance of this happening!

There was no chance of Leicester winning the league either.

Funny old game and all that.

 

[spudmuncher]

By those standards we have not had a decent

By those standards we have not had a decent manager since Joe Royle.

Big Sam is not a decent manager

 

[mezzrow]

The vaults will consume them.

Somebody's digging out gems right now for future use. Search "fat Sam".

 

[chrismpw]

How did you cope with eleven years of Moyes

I coped with the first five. There was hope then, and the Everton bush was sprouting.
It was only after those years the hope faded as the blooms failed to appear.

 

[billyblue80]

Keeps us up then we bin him off and go for Silva is probably the plan. If we wanted Dyche we could have got him but clearly Moshiri doesn't want him long term.

 

[Tubey]

How did you cope with eleven years of Moyes

Actually, for his first five or six years, Moyes was ambitious, energetic and very competent.

The last five destroyed that but by the end we had all identified it and were mostly baffled that United took him.

Martinez was also ambitious. Yes, ultimately flawed beyond repair but he wanted to play the 'right' way and beat sides.

Koeman was almost too ambitious in terms of his personal ego. He was a terrible manager in retrospect but he wanted to win trophies.

But Allardyce? He just wants the lowest possible bar he can clear to be able to say job done, and that's finishing 17th - all the while bringing in his mates or players he can organise a back hander from on long term lucrative contracts until the club finally bins him off in a terrible state of disrepair.

Our previous three managers offered hope when they came in; Allardyce does not.

 

[Lanolin]

Actually, for his first five or six years, Moyes was ambitious, energetic and very competent.

The last five destroyed that but by the end we had all identified it and were mostly baffled that United took him.

Martinez was also ambitious. Yes, ultimately flawed beyond repair but he wanted to play the 'right' way and beat sides.

Koeman was almost too ambitious in terms of his personal ego. He was a terrible manager in retrospect but he wanted to win trophies.

But Allardyce? He just wants the lowest possible bar he can clear to be able to say job done, and that's finishing 17th - all the while bringing in his mates or players he can organise a back hander from on long term lucrative contracts until the club finally bins him off in a terrible state of disrepair.

Our previous three managers offered hope when they came in; Allardyce does not.

Sums it up perfectly for me mate, that's why I honestly think I've had my fill.

 

[royalblue66]

Actually, for his first five or six years, Moyes was ambitious, energetic and very competent.

The last five destroyed that but by the end we had all identified it and were mostly baffled that United took him.

Martinez was also ambitious. Yes, ultimately flawed beyond repair but he wanted to play the 'right' way and beat sides.

Koeman was almost too ambitious in terms of his personal ego. He was a terrible manager in retrospect but he wanted to win trophies.

But Allardyce? He just wants the lowest possible bar he can clear to be able to say job done, and that's finishing 17th - all the while bringing in his mates or players he can organise a back hander from on long term lucrative contracts until the club finally bins him off in a terrible state of disrepair.

Our previous three managers offered hope when they came in; Allardyce does not.

This.

 

[Mogwai]

You are maybe forgetting it was Hughes who stabilised Man City and got them into the position where they could start to attract Top players and Managers like Mankini and Robinho.
If Fat Sam does a similar job for us I will not be disappointed.

That is a good point you make there Mark. But you’re still a knob.

 

[Zezti]

Yes.