Is everyone over reacting?

[AdaBrummieblue]

I support the club, not the manager. If he does the job of keeping us in the division and giving us something we can build on after the last shambolic attempt, then I'm all good. Don't care all that much for him and especially Sammy 'kin Lee, who apparently stinks of pee, but if that's who we've chosen then I have to get on board. Lets just hope there's some semblance of a Premier League club left after all this blows over. I personally think he'll keep us up and that's more than I can say for the previous two incumbents.

 

[Charles Hawtrey]

Well it’s escaped Koeman, Martinez, and the current holder of the U23’s league title.


Look lads I’m not saying Sam is my choice because he isn’t, but if he gets us through this then I think as a fan base we have to take a positive view and get behind the team.

Every fan doesn’t love every player but you still support Everton, and for me this applies to managers.

I forgot to add.... I still 110% support the club of my life but that doesn’t mean I have to either agree with what they do. Despite who is in charge I could never even think of not being a supporter. I will always be behind the team.

 

[davids]

He announced on TV weeks ago what his plan for Everton would be. Make us defensively strong, keep a few clean sheets and hope to nick a win here and there. Is that the height of our ambition? It doesn’t seem like that philosophy took a lot of thought... hardly the Neitsche of footy - Couldn’t any decent manager figure that out?
This is a tough day to be a Blue if only because this appointment defines our ambition as survival.

Have you watched our last few games?

 

[The binman chronicles]

Personally its not the corruption thing itself that bothers me - its the incredible lack of judgement on his part that lead him down that road after he had landed his dream job, he jeopardized that and a fat salary for a few bob.
I have often heard critics on here say that no one player is bigger than the club but I am unconvinced that Fat Sam feels that way about himself.

At least one good thing here is as this is a full time job he won't have the time he had with England to set up meetings with shady characters...

 

[Saint Domingo]

Well it’s escaped Koeman, Martinez, and the current holder of the U23’s league title.


Look lads I’m not saying Sam is my choice because he isn’t, but if he gets us through this then I think as a fan base we have to take a positive view and get behind the team.

Every fan doesn’t love every player but you still support Everton, and for me this applies to managers.

This is an important point. Sadly Allardyce is the manager this group of players deserve. We’re at the stage of the season where we’re still relative to our performances in an ok position (ie we’ve got more points than our performances have deserved) but who’s to say if we did get a Tuchel or a Fonseca would this group play for him? We could soon find ourselves cut adrift in the bottom three with our run of ‘easier’ games lost. They didn’t respond to Martinez’s philosophy, Koeman’s discipline or Unsworth’s arm round the shoulder. Allardyce’s system may be rudimentary but frankly it’s all these players deserve. The indecision at the top has been awful yes, but considering the talent in this squad the application of these players has been beyond the pale.

 

[Blues Harp]

It was probably people like the o/p who ridiculed the Blue Union when they warned us about billy liar et al, and went clap, clap, clap when his gurning mug appeared on the screen at GP. EFC.....accepting nearly 30 years of mediocrity. And yes I am going tonight much against my better judgement .

 

[chopper6]

I support the club, not the manager. If he does the job of keeping us in the division and giving us something we can build on after the last shambolic attempt, then I'm all good. Don't care all that much for him and especially Sammy 'kin Lee, who apparently stinks of pee, but if that's who we've chosen then I have to get on board. Lets just hope there's some semblance of a Premier League club left after all this blows over. I personally think he'll keep us up and that's more than I can say for the previous two incumbents.

Here here!

 

[degsy]

As long as i have been on here and twitter , i have never seen Everton fans at eachother as much as this.

Allardyce isnt my choice but i have definitely seen worse managers at Everton and seen us in a lot more trouble. We need fixing.

People actually hate Big Sam and i bet half of them dont know why. I dont waste my energy hating anyone - its just jumping on the band wagon Gang mentality for a lot ( not all). People are quoting that he is a crook - but we have been in underwritten by Phil Green for years.

The ones saying they have finished with Everton ? Ill bet most havent got a season ticket or ever go!

Also clammering for Fonseca when many hadnt heard of him 24hours earlier is just as embarrassing.

This-ish.
Over reacting?
a bit
Dr. Evil and Mini me? If they do the job, well fairplay to them...god help them if they fail mind...and for that matter god help us all - phrases like ' last chance saloon' come to mind

Save your Ire though, for the real and proper targets...The Board

 

[COYBL25]

The thing is it is like watching your absolute life long best mate going through a crisis.

His dull but very stable and ultimately happy marriage ended after 13 years - his life left him for a billionaire but it ended badly.
He couldn't believe his luck when a Spanish student moved in, they had parties every night in the first year but she would never do her share of the boring stuff like emptying the bin and kept going on about philosophy but never went to the lectures.
He won the lottery and binned her
He needed someone to build a new house and asked a no nonsense Dutch architect, who was a famous model in her day, to move in. She had done some decent work on the south coast after a project in Spain had failed badly. For some reason the architect forgot the foundations and roof and just kept ordering bathroom suites. It became clear the relationship was over and neither of them actually were that bothered about eachother.
So he went internet dating, dismissing Fat Samantha straight away, she'd been around the block and had a string of failed relationships. Friends and family warned him off but after the third flood in 7 days he decided she would at least act as a sandbag. She turned up with a liter of supermarket vodka, a half eaten meat feast and a carton of cigarettes and he is about to welcome her in.
Would you warn him off?

How did it end up, you can't leave it at that ?

 

[COYBL25]

Everyone from 9th downwards is in a relegation battle, really.

The thing is, most of those teams have strengths that they are playing to.

Brighton can defend well. Huddersfield mix it up. Southampton have some half-decent players. West Brom have strength.

We literally have f all atm with no set system or functioning way of playing.

This is my immediate concern.

Irrelevant of how disgusting he is, he's going to somehow get a tune out of :

A defence that's made up of over the hill, badly out of form / rubbish.

A midfield that's got no pace / badly out of form / not arsed.

No reliable goal scorer.

They've effectively seen off three managers, if you include Unsworth.

 

[Lob]

I dont hate Sam Allardyce, there is no doubt he is good at what he does. I just feel massively let down and disgusted and embarrassed really. The club is being run like a total shambles. Very early in this season when it was blatantly obvious that we had serious problems, we had plenty of time to have found a quality winning Manager to get in place beforer sacking Koeman. It is completely down to shambolic management from the Everton Hierarchy that we have ended up in the position that we are in i.e unbalanced team fighting relegation and having to go cap in hand to Sam and give him whatever he wants with him being the only manager that would take us. We have been turned into a relegation fighting laughing stock.

My only hope now is that Allardyce proves many people wrong and does a lot better than expected given that he is being given a chance of managing a bigger club with access to plenty of funds. Every part of my body is crossed.

No matter how he does though, there is no getting away from how much we have all been let down by the shambolic Everton hierarchy and there needs to be a massive shake up from the top down if we are to ever move forward as a club with promise and potential.

 

[Seathestars]

I'm just hoping that when the dust settles Moshiri will clean the boardroom out, its stinks to high heaven.
You can't blame Alardyce, and I don't think there's another Manager who would have a better chance of keeping us up.
That Southampton game is the worst performance I've seen for years, and not just by an Everton side, by any premier league side.

 

[D410]

The problems at this club are bigger than the next manager.

We have the board at each others throats and using the media to extend the battle in public.

We have a large number of players who believe that they can see off any manager when they don,t get in line with the players. The players don,t give a toss what the fans thinks and will down tools as and when they see fit in front of home and away fans.

The fans have brought disrepute on the club with running battles in and outside of the ground on euro nights (away fans have played there part)

We have had national media question the ownership of the club and print storys on everton employees who continue to set a bad example to themselves and the next generation of fans and players.

shall I stop here....ffs

 

[LydiateLee]

No, this is as bad as I have seen and the people we are about to hire completely devalue our standing as a club.

 

[Groucho]

This is an important point. Sadly Allardyce is the manager this group of players deserve. We’re at the stage of the season where we’re still relative to our performances in an ok position (ie we’ve got more points than our performances have deserved) but who’s to say if we did get a Tuchel or a Fonseca would this group play for him? We could soon find ourselves cut adrift in the bottom three with our run of ‘easier’ games lost. They didn’t respond to Martinez’s philosophy, Koeman’s discipline or Unsworth’s arm round the shoulder. Allardyce’s system may be rudimentary but frankly it’s all these players deserve. The indecision at the top has been awful yes, but considering the talent in this squad the application of these players has been beyond the pale.

And that's why I'm reluctantly for the appointment.

I support the club, not the manager. If he does the job of keeping us in the division and giving us something we can build on after the last shambolic attempt, then I'm all good. Don't care all that much for him and especially Sammy 'kin Lee, who apparently stinks of pee, but if that's who we've chosen then I have to get on board. Lets just hope there's some semblance of a Premier League club left after all this blows over. I personally think he'll keep us up and that's more than I can say for the previous two incumbents.

Again,I reluctantly agree

I forgot to add.... I still 110% support the club of my life but that doesn’t mean I have to either agree with what they do. Despite who is in charge I could never even think of not being a supporter. I will always be behind the team.

Exactly.