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Is "The Athletic" worth it?
- Thread starter Hackbread
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Nonsense like this ( an athletic owned YouTube channel); a good example of the faux intellectualising of football.
Complete with university lecture vocal delivery, and Jurgen Kloop deification.
Intellectualising? It's a basic explanation of a tactic and the styles of it. It doesn't even really praise Klopp or indeed anyone, it's fairly reserved in terms of praise or criticism and just tells some mundane facts which someone may or may not be interested.
You might not be particularly interested in it but I'm not sure your criticisms of faux intellectualism, Klippety worship or vocal delivery are entirely valid. Seems more like a case of stop liking what I don't like.
Maybe I'm just not good enough at football to *get* football. Still waiting for your iteration of how 'OK' someone needs to be at football so can't be sure.
Billy Dean
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Yes it's just the German term for it. I guess people call it that now, because the Germans sort of revived the concept about 10-12 years ago.
Drico
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Yes. As Billy points out, it's the lexicon here in the Bundesliga. The reason it has travelled is basically because the "German school" of coaching is currently the dominant "school" in European football thanks to Klopp, Tuchel, and Flick (the Champions League winning coaches of 2019, 2020, and 2021), the earlier work of Rangnick (who largely invented it back in the 2000s), the success of Heynckes and Löw in the 2010s and, recently, "bright young thing" Julian Nagelsmann at Bayern.
Right about now, though, Michael Cox will be along to invent a new "school" and charge you for the privilege of reading about it in The Athletic.
They have just taken on the self styled King of Scottie Road.
I guess it helps cover his Kestrel tab.
I guess it helps cover his Kestrel tab.
Muggins
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“Klopp stands as the high priest of Geggenpressing..”
I’ve heard enough. Wow.
Billy Dean
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I wouldn't say Rangnick invented it, but would agree that he was the main one to revive it in Germany with his Hoffenheim team
Billy Dean
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Who cares what the voice sounds like really?
The Athletic do clearly
BullensRoad
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James Pearce is one of the reasons I can't comprehend how people become journalists.
Especially since social media him and Oliver Holt have shown their distain to those who question their opinion as opposed to factual journalism.
Billy Dean
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I read 4-5 articles a day on the athletic and haven't read a single one by James Pearce
Drico
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You can argue about who invented what as football tactics and systems are basically recycled, tweaked, and evolved all the time, but Rangnick is widely acknowledged as the "Godfather of Gegenpressing" as Pep Guardiola labelled him. Here's an interesting article from Sky Sports explaining his influence on German and European coaching (it also has some interesting observations on our own Frank):
Thomas Tuchel could become third successive German coach to win Champions League - so what is their appeal?
Sky Sports talks to technical director David Webb about the appeal of German coaches and why they are becoming increasingly successful as Thomas Tuchel tries to become the third successive German Champions League winner
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