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Is there a level of corruption in the league right now?

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It's professional sport. Rugby, US Sports, Athletics all see people penalised for performance enhancing drugs.

Aside from the 1999-2001 Italian Nandralome situation, you've had a couple like Toure mistakingly doing it, or Ferdinand missing a test... but nothing significant, in arguably the most popular sport in the World and you know why, you can't damage the brand. When Liverpool and Man City went neck and neck a couple years ago, not one player from either side got injured for 5 months at full intensity.

The Premier League is guilty of far too many things, but they will never ever let another Man Utd monopoly happen again. It benefits them to have United in the title race as along with Liverpool they have the biggest global audience.

Runs a bit deeper than that in terms of token fines rather than bans. For example 4 teams have been fined token amounts of money over the last 10 years for missing drugs tests as a squad (ie: not where they are supposed to be) and the most recent fine for this was a PL team who were find £35000 - how can that be a disincentive for a club to managing their doping policy with the rigour needed for a doping policy to actually be implemented. Interesting titbit from this is of the most recent 4 top flight (across Europe) fines for teams missing doping test, three were managed by the same fella - coincidence? Probably but statistically highly unlikely.

Then you move on to the Fuentes case in Spain - ithere was a huge doping ring in spain smashed by authorities and in court witnesses took down Dr's, athletes, Cyclists etc; but really interestingly despite multiple references to institutional football doping, there didn't seem to be an appetite in spain to look under that hood. This was at the time Barca were at their peak, Spain were winning major tournaments and Real were winning CLs - simply there wasn't the desire to take them down despite evidence being offered, WADA have continually question why the Spanish legal system roadblocked the investigation, one suspects the answer is football.

To link the two above points, I mentioned that one manager was in charge of 3 of the major fines for missing tests, he was also in charge of primary spanish teams at the time of these cases and incredibly, while managing today, still uses the same Dr who were overseeing doping programs of athletes according Fuentes case & also tested positive for Nandrolone twice as a player.

My point in all of this is the evidence is probably in front of us, but football simply has too much money involved to fail, so it as an industry will continue to push barriers as far as it can, know there are token fines and protection there to help from governing bodies and states.
 
I think there’s too much money involved and too many dodgy mafiosi characters for there not to be some level of corruption involved. The new VAR system and the margins they are selectively enforcing are so tight that on any given day, any given decision can go in any given way.

But that said, I do think it’s improved recently and I remember missing VAR in the Carabo cup against United. Because at least with VAR the ref can’t simply pretend not to have seen something and will invite ridicule and public outrage if trying to do do. It does at least put more pressure on them to get it right.

But I really don’t think these officials should be given the benefit of the doubt. Ridiculous decisions that are clearly wrong (when there is no excuse for them being so) should be fiercely contested/protested by supporters (and especially organized supporters groups) everywhere and people shouldn’t just assume that corruption is not a real possibility. Feigning incompetence and then dismissing any accusations of corruption as ‘conspiracy theory‘ is a tried and tested means by which the immensely powerful can discredit any person/political narrative that is in opposition to themselves/their own.

A professional ref who cannot get match winning/losing decisions right, even with the aid of an instant replay should be viewed with deep suspicion IMO.

The biggest problem is that there is no accountability whatsoever.
 
I think there’s too much money involved and too many dodgy mafiosi characters for there not to be some level of corruption involved. The new VAR system and the margins they are selectively enforcing are so tight that on any given day, any given decision can go in any given way.

But that said, I do think it’s improved recently and I remember missing VAR in the Carabo cup against United. Because at least with VAR the ref can’t simply pretend not to have seen something and will invite ridicule and public outrage if trying to do do. It does at least put more pressure on them to get it right.

But I really don’t think these officials should be given the benefit of the doubt. Ridiculous decisions that are clearly wrong (when there is no excuse for them being so) should be fiercely contested/protested by supporters (and especially organized supporters groups) everywhere and people shouldn’t just assume that corruption is not a real possibility. Feigning incompetence and then dismissing any accusations of corruption as ‘conspiracy theory‘ is a tried and tested means by which the immensely powerful can discredit any person/political narrative that is in opposition to themselves/their own.

A professional ref who cannot get match winning/losing decisions right, even with the aid of an instant replay should be viewed with deep suspicion IMO.

The biggest problem is that there is no accountability whatsoever.
How many tests to referees do to be able to officiate a premier league game? It surely must be the best of the best, but they’re terrible, there must be better refs we can add to the epl somewhere.
 

Those lot won a title, got a documentary about it, Leicester story was x100 more worth of a documentary didn't see Sky commission one then.

Say we win the league next season in all honesty it will be our 10th and after 35 years of basic football nothingness will we be afforded the same privilege?

It sums up who they value and what makes the brand more successful therefore I have never had any doubts.
 

no way. this is the most watched game on the planet, every decision is crawled over, tables drawn up every week over who is ahead and behind re var, one thing is safe, the game is not crooked.
 
I think there’s too much money involved and too many dodgy mafiosi characters for there not to be some level of corruption involved. The new VAR system and the margins they are selectively enforcing are so tight that on any given day, any given decision can go in any given way.

But that said, I do think it’s improved recently and I remember missing VAR in the Carabo cup against United. Because at least with VAR the ref can’t simply pretend not to have seen something and will invite ridicule and public outrage if trying to do do. It does at least put more pressure on them to get it right.

But I really don’t think these officials should be given the benefit of the doubt. Ridiculous decisions that are clearly wrong (when there is no excuse for them being so) should be fiercely contested/protested by supporters (and especially organized supporters groups) everywhere and people shouldn’t just assume that corruption is not a real possibility. Feigning incompetence and then dismissing any accusations of corruption as ‘conspiracy theory‘ is a tried and tested means by which the immensely powerful can discredit any person/political narrative that is in opposition to themselves/their own.

A professional ref who cannot get match winning/losing decisions right, even with the aid of an instant replay should be viewed with deep suspicion IMO.

The biggest problem is that there is no accountability whatsoever.

It's a ticking time bomb that will not go away, it will explode similar how it did with the Tour de France many years ago.
 

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