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Is This the Worst Period in Our History

toffeeblue9 said:
Many years before I was born, but I'd assume the 50s were worse given we spent a few years in the 2nd division.

That being said, this is at least on par with the 90s - but even in that period we had the Royle 18 months or so in the middle of it where we won a trophy and finished top 6.

In the last decade we have been basically on the decline slowly but surely the entire time, to the point that for the last 3 years we've had a team playing the worst football in the division and playing footsy with relegation. It's grim. I get practically no enjoyment from Everton currently and I haven't for a good while. Yes, I can be objective about the reasons why but that changes very little about how I feel.

I've got two lads, 13 and 16, and I feel sorry for both of them. They're growing up as blues in one of the worst periods we've ever had.

Ok, there's light possibly at the end of the tunnel, but no fanbase has suffered like ours in the top division. I often think that it might have been better if we'd gone down and come back up, mentally that might have been like ripping the plaster off, but no blue could ever *want* that to happen, so instead we suffer.
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I think we are in a much worse position than we were in the 90`s now. Joe Royle took over and immediately had us moving up the table getting 7th in his first full season. The wheels came off quickly and we went back to a last day survival and when Moyes came in he moved us up steadily too.
What we have now is nearly a full decade of going backwards while at the same time other clubs have got their act together and are better run off the pitch while performing much better on the pitch than us. We went from best of the rest when it was a big 4 in the PL to being nowhere when its a big 6 (with Man U in the bottom half). Brighton and Bournemouth were nearly going out of business around the time Moyes was lifting us back into the top 6, now they are above us in the league and Fulham and Brentford were in the lower divisions in the 90`s and going nowhere.
 
Imagine having to support the Citeh. They are going through such a terrible spell they booed their team off last night. Must be awful to watch Foden, Grealish de Bruyne etc etc. Just imagine. I hope they are thrashed by the RS and lose the following five games. What s....te fans City have.
 
Raino85 said:
Just following on from a previous post, is this the worst prolonged period of Everton Football Club

Just had a look at other contenders would be

1947-1960 - finishing 14, 18, 18, 22, 7(Div 2), 16 (Div 2), 2 (Div 2), 11, 15, 15.16.16, 15 10 bottom half finishes, 1 relegation plus 3 seasons in division 2

1992-2002 - finishing 13,17,15,6, 15,17,14,13,16,15 9 bottom half seasons with 2 last day relegation fights, plus others. Offset with a 6th place finish in the middle and an FA Cup win

2019-2024 finishing 12,10,16,17,15 plus probably around 15th this season 5 bottom half finishes, 1 last day escape, plus a couple of close calls (Palace)

What do we think? I think personally, now is worse than the 90s as i feel the gap from relegation fodder and becoming good again has got so much larger, back then that gap could get solved with 1 decent signing (Kanchelskis) or a very good manager (Moyes)
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Personally, No, it's all so much Meh now
The worst I ever felt was after the 1968 Cup Final
 

Woolverhampton_Blue said:
Interesting to read opinions of older blues who have seen the good and the bad.

I was a bit too young to remember the FA Cup in 95, so I’ve never seen us win anything. There’s been a few flashes of success being within reach, but ultimately we’ve always fallen short or fizzled out.

It’s the worst period for me because I’ve never felt less engaged or in love with Everton. I still watch every game, but I don’t get excited about it anymore. Hopefully new ownership and the new stadium freshen things up, but I get the feeling that modern football has killed off a lot of the magic. We’ll probably never reach the heights we once did, ditto for all but a handful of clubs.
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I started watching the Blues as a 7 year old in 1948 and never saw a really great Everton team until Catterick and John Moore’s revitalised the team and club. Being honest I just loved watching football and didn’t really expect Everton to win anything just took it for granted we would be a struggling team who might get a good cup run, which we did twice. Thinking about it the directors and board must have been a pretty hopeless lot because Everton always had a big following but were taken for granted by the club and its board, Success came and went so quickly in the sixties and eighties with no sustained periods and then Thingy came along and you know the rest of the sad story!
 
The kenwright years. That's how the darkest period in our history will be remembered. His stench is finally lifting, but it's taken a while.

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toffeeblue9 said:
Sorry, I meant over the last decade really. Those teams have gone down which would admittedly be devastating, but it's like euthanasia - the suffering is eventually over. We've instead been on a torture rack that whole time.
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I agree with this.

Now i am not for one minute saying we should or it would be beneficial to go down, in fact it would probably kill us with the stadium, but..................................if this is us 'surviving' what is the actual point? What is the end game? Its like a coma, sometimes isn't it just best to put a pillow over our faces and give the hospital bed to someone who can use it
 

Might not be the worst time (debatable), but the football honestly is without doubt the worst football we’ve played in my lifetime by some distant.
 
toffeeblue9 said:
Many years before I was born, but I'd assume the 50s were worse given we spent a few years in the 2nd division.

That being said, this is at least on par with the 90s - but even in that period we had the Royle 18 months or so in the middle of it where we won a trophy and finished top 6.

In the last decade we have been basically on the decline slowly but surely the entire time, to the point that for the last 3 years we've had a team playing the worst football in the division and playing footsy with relegation. It's grim. I get practically no enjoyment from Everton currently and I haven't for a good while. Yes, I can be objective about the reasons why but that changes very little about how I feel.

I've got two lads, 13 and 16, and I feel sorry for both of them. They're growing up as blues in one of the worst periods we've ever had.

Ok, there's light possibly at the end of the tunnel, but no fanbase has suffered like ours in the top division. I often think that it might have been better if we'd gone down and come back up, mentally that might have been like ripping the plaster off, but no blue could ever *want* that to happen, so instead we suffer.
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This for me is what infuriates me about the 'lets just get to the stadium' or 'he was brought in to do a job' comments, and in general Dyche's lack of giving a s$%t about what any fan thinks and his arrogant ' i know best, i've looked at the stats' approach.

Football is meant to be about joy, i was your kids age around 97-2002 and i still had a connection to those teams/players despite having Walter Smith in charge during most of htat era, we still had Super Kev, Olivier Dacourt, Don Hutchison etc. We weren't the best, Smit wasn't the most of forward thinking coaches, and i imagine he had to work under simialr constraits as now. But this is just so draining.

I don't think the players now lack fight, effort or ambition. They have just had any ounce of creativity or self thought squeezed out of them

My thought process going to the game on Saturday was that even if we win, i don't think I'm going to enjoy it. as we know the blueprint for a Dyche Everton win and its basically not sustainable.
Hope the opposition don't do anything that good and sort of force a goal in one way or another. Its dreadful.
 
My dad was born in 1948 and a teenager in the 60's. Then in his late thirties for the 80's, the spawny bugger saw us win everything in sight.

I grew up on the Latch, Dave Thomas, Dobbo and McKenzie - at least that team would give anyone a game.
Then I got spoiled with the 80's - lucky me- but apart from 95, European tours a couple of times, 2014 under Martinez, and the odd cup run, its been generally a tough watch, especially given the relative success of the RS and our peers.

The past 5 or 6 years have been absolute crap, relegation battles, etc. The low points being Fat Sam, Sammy Lee and the FSW in our dugout.
But I'd say this current period under Dyche is probably the worst 'football' I can ever remember.
 
gazzaa2 said:
Moyes did it with West Ham. Took them from relegation certs to 3 seasons in Europe, a semi final and then trophy. Emery has done wonders at Villa in a short time.

Competing at the top is harder than ever but you can be a good top half team and get in Europe quickly if you do things right.
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Only if you're calling the new European micky mouse league a relevant competition, rather than means to stretch and hold back any teams threatening the top cabal of their home league.
 

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