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Catterick was a great manager for us, but the way we declined after that 1970 league title win, does not reflect well on him. Swapping David Johnson for Rod Belfitt was another silly move imo.FFS - he was one player. If the club is so delicate that the selling of one player can be used to justify 50 years of 'mediocrity', them we deserve all we (didn't) get. Besides, (unpopular opinion alert) i don't recall him pulling up any stumps for Arsenal after he left. Maybe we got the best years out of him and sold him when we could still get a decent price?
Bally was never world class outside of that trio. i know that may outrage many blues, but its like taking Messi out of that Barca trio, still a great, great player, but never a shadow of the man for Argentina etc. Messi, with xavi and Iniesta either side was the ultimate footballer. Ball with Harvey and Kendall either side was our best ever midfielder by a million miles. Without them, he was very, very good, not world class!FFS - he was one player. If the club is so delicate that the selling of one player can be used to justify 50 years of 'mediocrity', them we deserve all we (didn't) get. Besides, (unpopular opinion alert) i don't recall him pulling up any stumps for Arsenal after he left. Maybe we got the best years out of him and sold him when we could still get a decent price?
Tripe!Bally was never world class outside of that trio. i know that may outrage many blues, but its like taking Messi out of that Barca trio, still a great, great player, but never a shadow of the man for Argentina etc. Messi, with xavi and Iniesta either side was the ultimate footballer. Ball with Harvey and Kendall either side was our best ever midfielder by a million miles. Without them, he was very, very good, not world class!
he was world class for arsenal was he?Tripe!
I suspect folk that watched the 1966 world cup final would disagree with your synopsis that he could not play world class levels without Kendall and Harvey! Magic player, loved his attitude on the pitch.Bally was never world class outside of that trio. i know that may outrage many blues, but its like taking Messi out of that Barca trio, still a great, great player, but never a shadow of the man for Argentina etc. Messi, with xavi and Iniesta either side was the ultimate footballer. Ball with Harvey and Kendall either side was our best ever midfielder by a million miles. Without them, he was very, very good, not world class!
Every time I hear the name Rod Belfitt I cringe. I think Catterick was starting to get ill at that time. Either that or he was on LSD.?Catterick was a great manager for us, but the way we declined after that 1970 league title win, does not reflect well on him. Swapping David Johnson for Rod Belfitt was another silly move imo.
Well this could get very interesting!Bally was never world class outside of that trio. i know that may outrage many blues, but its like taking Messi out of that Barca trio, still a great, great player, but never a shadow of the man for Argentina etc. Messi, with xavi and Iniesta either side was the ultimate footballer. Ball with Harvey and Kendall either side was our best ever midfielder by a million miles. Without them, he was very, very good, not world class!
Broke my heart when Bally was sold, that was the end of us as a truly massive club, sure we had the 80's but even then, we were winning stuff, but, no longer true heavyweights of the game.View attachment 149074... that Moores and Catterick (pictured) sold Alan Ball (R I P) to the Arsenal.
With that single decision, they cut out the beating heart of the club and started us on the path to mediocrity. (Well, we had 4 good years in the 80's, so ,mustn't grumble, eh?)
Take a peak at Brazil v England 1970 World Cup. Bally and Bobby Moore were brilliant that day and wouldn't have looked out of place in that great Brazilian team.Bally was never world class outside of that trio. i know that may outrage many blues, but its like taking Messi out of that Barca trio, still a great, great player, but never a shadow of the man for Argentina etc. Messi, with xavi and Iniesta either side was the ultimate footballer. Ball with Harvey and Kendall either side was our best ever midfielder by a million miles. Without them, he was very, very good, not world class!
Sorry, but I disagree so much with your view on Ball that it’s almost pointless debating further.he was world class for arsenal was he?