rochdaleblue
Player Valuation: £50m
McCarthy obviously has professional pride about wanting to play week in week out. Whereas niasse and mcgeady....
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James McCarthy
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They might have it now they're in the group stages, they probably see him as a long term investment
EFC78
Player Valuation: £25m
Is there anything to suggest McCarthy is close to going or is it just rumours from rags like the Mail and Mirror like last season where they said he was destined for Spurs? Or is it because of what some fans on the forums claim they think they know that he isn't in the managers plans despite playing in the first 3 games of the season before this reported groin problem?
I've always thought McCarthy has something to offer Everton, and still do. It's obvious that Barry is the superior footballer in terms of creativity so he is inevitably behind him in the pecking order and now we have Gueye. Gueye has been one of our best players at the start of the season and unfortunately for McCarthy, he's showing a lot more drive and intensity to his game than McCarthy has managed in the past 2 seasons, so it's not too surprising to think that Koeman doesn't see him as first choice, especially as Gueye was signed by Koeman.
Having said that, top clubs need big squads with different kinds of players in them. It's interesting that loads on here are calling for us to get rid, forgetting that if Barry or Gueye get injured we're left with Cleverley who loads don't rate either. Are Besic and Gibson really adequate cover when they're both injury prone? That's before mentioning the right back position where Koeman has identified that McCarthy can help out if needed, with Coleman now injured.
We're fortunately going through a period where we are doing well and don't have too many injuries to key players at the moment. That will change as the season goes on and Barry is aged 35. He won't be in the starting 11 past this season. We haven't had the most difficult fixtures yet and already people are making wild claims about how great Holgate and Gueye are after a handful of games (which they have been so far), but an injury to either of them, or a dip in form could result in someone like McCarthy coming in and doing a job for a few games.
If he wants to go and we can get suitable cover in central midfield then I don't see it as a big problem but people need to consider the squad and not just the first 11. And suggestions that McCarthy is a poor player are just wrong.
I've always thought McCarthy has something to offer Everton, and still do. It's obvious that Barry is the superior footballer in terms of creativity so he is inevitably behind him in the pecking order and now we have Gueye. Gueye has been one of our best players at the start of the season and unfortunately for McCarthy, he's showing a lot more drive and intensity to his game than McCarthy has managed in the past 2 seasons, so it's not too surprising to think that Koeman doesn't see him as first choice, especially as Gueye was signed by Koeman.
Having said that, top clubs need big squads with different kinds of players in them. It's interesting that loads on here are calling for us to get rid, forgetting that if Barry or Gueye get injured we're left with Cleverley who loads don't rate either. Are Besic and Gibson really adequate cover when they're both injury prone? That's before mentioning the right back position where Koeman has identified that McCarthy can help out if needed, with Coleman now injured.
We're fortunately going through a period where we are doing well and don't have too many injuries to key players at the moment. That will change as the season goes on and Barry is aged 35. He won't be in the starting 11 past this season. We haven't had the most difficult fixtures yet and already people are making wild claims about how great Holgate and Gueye are after a handful of games (which they have been so far), but an injury to either of them, or a dip in form could result in someone like McCarthy coming in and doing a job for a few games.
If he wants to go and we can get suitable cover in central midfield then I don't see it as a big problem but people need to consider the squad and not just the first 11. And suggestions that McCarthy is a poor player are just wrong.
Not saying they haven't got it Mutley,they very much have, just saying saying there is no way they will outlay that much and never have.
I live in Scotland and follow the domestic scene closely,the Celtic owner Dermot Desmond is something of a tight wad and keeps the Parkhead finances on a tight budget.
Putting it into perspective the most they have ever paid for a player is £6m back in 2000 for Chris Sutton.
dholliday
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He needs good on-form players around him then I still think he can do a job for us at squad-level: he's tidy and methodical. But upon seeing Gana show us what can be done in that position it does look like we've outgrown the need for a James McCarthy as a regular first-teamer.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
25 years of age mate. He's got years ahead to do what he does best and add to his game.
Unreal that anyone should turn on a player of this quality for us in the past. God help Gueye if/when he falls off any sort of decent standard. He'll be slaughtered.
He has no ability on the ball whatsoever. It's nothing about developing. I'm as likely to become a top level playmaker as he is.
dholliday
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aye, given the choice and lack of 20m bid I'd keep him still.
dholliday
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He's not meant to be a playmaker. He's a water carrier. Every good team needs one.
Duncan Disordely
Player Valuation: £35m
Isn't this massively at odds with your view on Baines/Galloway though? Especially as Baines has been a far better player over many more than just one season than McCarthy has.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
No mate, I'm saying that Baines shouldn't be the starting LB. Ability wise he's more than adequate to deputise. The Mccarthy detractors are simply saying get rid....and they'll do exactly the same when Gueye's form goes.
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
McCarthy has been toilet for over a year. He's not merely having some 'blip' in form.
He's a fairly limited player anyway.
He's a fairly limited player anyway.
TheFinnFan
Finners
He was Bobbys man anyways...Nea of losing him.
Jags..class
Player Valuation: £70m
Barry and Gueye wont play every game and he would be excellent cover for these two
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