James McCarthy

[Tramps_mate]

A few weeks ago: he is boss and what we have been missing all season.

Now: he's pretty crap really and offers little to the team.

Stop this nonsense immediately please.

So what is he?

 

[Bilko]

If Martinez goes, he will be the player he tries to take with him . If you like , clough and McGovern relationship

 

[BlueToff]

So what is he?

A very good player that would get into the midfields of most sides in the league

 

[Verbal Kint]

He is never going to be a Frank Lampard type player bombing into the box and scoring vital goals, he is what he is and that is an effective stopper who does breaks up play and gives it to the people who can.

He will never play the Barry role as he isn't good enough in the ball. But we are a much better team with him in it.

 

[BlueToff]

He is never going to be a Frank Lampard type player bombing into the box and scoring vital goals, he is what he is and that is an effective stopper who does breaks up play and gives it to the people who can.

He will never play the Barry role as he isn't good enough in the ball. But we are a much better team with him in it.

People don't seem to realise how effective he is until he's out of the side through injury.

Even when he's having an off day, he still does a job that no other player can do (though Besic has shown sides of being able to deputise for him)

 

[mightymoyes]

A very good player that would get into the midfields of most sides in the league

his hard work is great but that should be the basic requirements of any central midfielder. if he wants to have a future in the starting 11 he needs to suddenly develop ability on the ball, especially at home. not going to happen.
useful squad player to have but if we want to kick on we need a player who works as hard and can hurt the opposition going forward too.

 

[sageyefc]

People don't seem to realise how effective he is until he's out of the side through injury.

Even when he's having an off day, he still does a job that no other player can do (though Besic has shown sides of being able to deputise for him)

Think it's more o just having someone with some energy in there next to Barry that makes the dufference, we look better with either McCarthy and especially besic.

Cleverly can't do it

 

[bcblue1878]

The water carrier and so important to us.
Can't believe he is getting bashed like stones is.
The question i have is the fans that are bashing jimmy and stones what were they like when we had the likes of mitch ward and tony thomas and so on

Most of the bashers probably haven't heard of either Mitch Ward or Tony Thomas, and probably weren't even born then!!

 

[BlueToff]

Think it's more o just having someone with some energy in there next to Barry that makes the dufference, we look better with either McCarthy and especially besic.

Cleverly can't do it

Yep. It's the energy but also the positional sense they need when playing alongside Barry.

McCarthy's positioning, in general, is great, and usually helps prevent those counter attacks that teams hit us with at home.

Besic's, understandably, isn't as good, but he has a bit more pace to make up for it and he's a better passer than McCarthy in terms of his range and ability to pick out an incisive pass out wide etc. (McCarthy's short passing is usually very good though).

Cleverley has the energy, but not the positioning and always looks to make the runs forward, which in turn negates the space for Barkley, so that's why the Clev is (for certain games) better out wide with a free role.

 

[BlueToff]

his hard work is great but that should be the basic requirements of any central midfielder. if he wants to have a future in the starting 11 he needs to suddenly develop ability on the ball, especially at home. not going to happen.
useful squad player to have but if we want to kick on we need a player who works as hard and can hurt the opposition going forward too.

He does have ability on the ball. He's played some wonderful passes in and around the area this season, but it's really just not his game.

He's an absolute key player to us and so much more than a 'useful' squad player.

He'd get in every midfield in the league bar one or two sides, mate, I can almost gurantee that.

Yes there's areas that he can improve in, of course, but all in all he's vitally important.

 

[BlueToff]

Most of the bashers probably haven't heard of either Mitch Ward or Tony Thomas, and probably weren't even born then!!

I haven't heard of either of them either mate, and probably wasn't born then either, but I rate McCarthy as one of the first names on the teamsheet when fit! Vital player for us, and when he's on his game we're 10x the team.

 

[mightymoyes]

He does have ability on the ball. He's played some wonderful passes in and around the area this season, but it's really just not his game.

He's an absolute key player to us and so much more than a 'useful' squad player.

He'd get in every midfield in the league bar one or two sides, mate, I can almost gurantee that.

Yes there's areas that he can improve in, of course, but all in all he's vitally important.

personally think hes well over-rated by our fans, i like him but to say he'd get in most other sides is nonsense. he'd get in most sides below the top 6.

 

[Kaiser Soysauce]

I haven't heard of either of them either mate, and probably wasn't born then either, but I rate McCarthy as one of the first names on the teamsheet when fit! Vital player for us, and when he's on his game we're 10x the team.

How can we not win a game with 110 players on the pitch?!

 

[SpurtingLesbian]

Yep. It's the energy but also the positional sense they need when playing alongside Barry.

McCarthy's positioning, in general, is great, and usually helps prevent those counter attacks that teams hit us with at home.

Besic's, understandably, isn't as good, but he has a bit more pace to make up for it and he's a better passer than McCarthy in terms of his range and ability to pick out an incisive pass out wide etc. (McCarthy's short passing is usually very good though).

Cleverley has the energy, but not the positioning and always looks to make the runs forward, which in turn negates the space for Barkley, so that's why the Clev is (for certain games) better out wide with a free role.

There's the positional discipline as well.
McCarthy always holds position unless he's been told to push up, very disciplined, knows the job backwards and knows even when he's pushed up that his first job is always defensive.
Besic tends to get excited and drift forward to get into the game and sometimes we get caught out by quick counters because of it. He is improving though.
Cleverley doesn't seem to know where he's supposed to be half the time when he's dropped back alongside Barry which to be fair isn't his usual/best position

 

[Saint Domingo]

his hard work is great but that should be the basic requirements of any central midfielder. if he wants to have a future in the starting 11 he needs to suddenly develop ability on the ball, especially at home. not going to happen.
useful squad player to have but if we want to kick on we need a player who works as hard and can hurt the opposition going forward too.

Besic is this player. Has far more to his game than McCarthy.