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2021/22 James Rodriguez

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Would Jelavic come out of retirement and come to us were Richarlison to leave?. Jela was a goal-machine when he first came to Everton...and maybe history might repeat?

PS: having said that, I would not consider Jela a good replacement for James...Jela lacks the creativity needed for the position James occupies
 
Carloblues said:
Was I happy about the end of last season? Absolutely not, BUT, that's down to piss poor management from Carlo that. He let him get away with murder, I doubt Rodriquez just went right off off for a bit I'm tired, he was allowed to do so by that fat pig Carlo
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...not a pig. Carlo (aka Barney) was a fat dinosaur...
 
Blue83 said:
I got the same vibe too, I was thinking to myself "Did they tell the video editor to specifically remove any sight of him"

Always said not bothered if he went, but he's our best player and it's shocking the way he's seemingly being treated, can't believe we won't even play him
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Only came out of isolation on Monday.

was never being risked v Huddersfield especially if there is a potential move. If he stays he will be on the bench or starting.

I’m firmly in the camp of it’s a shame if he goes as he is world class but understandable if Benitez wants players who are reliable.

I’d be much more concerned if Richardson go
 

ToffeeTim said:
Of course, but keeping Richarlison is key. Sounds like Kean may be off so I doubt we will sell all 3.
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If we can ship Kean - which was clearly always the plan - it'll be a huge help with actually having money to spend on fees.

Doesn't save us much on wages so still think they'll be looking to move James on. I hope he doesn't but can definitely see it, possibly even to Juve now with Mendes grinding the gears in that Ronaldo deal.
 
BlueToff said:
If we can ship Kean - which was clearly always the plan - it'll be a huge help with actually having money to spend on fees.

Doesn't save us much on wages so still think they'll be looking to move James on. I hope he doesn't but can definitely see it, possibly even to Juve now with Mendes grinding the gears in that Ronaldo deal.
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Could potentially see that tbf. Think Italy is the league most suited to him at this point.
 
ToffeeTim said:
Could potentially see that tbf. Think Italy is the league most suited to him at this point.
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He does want to play there too, wants the clean sweep (which is fair enough from his perspective) of the top five leagues. It's a big thing not many players have done.

But, he can do that in a year. Just depends what Mendes sets up. Juve will have a lot of financial wiggle room now but they need players out too - Ramsey (but injured), McKennie etc.

I'd be loathe to lose him I really would because he's magic and as much as I'm for hard work and effort you need quality as well and I don't think we have enough of it.

I am worried about Richarlison going. I'll admit I'm baffled by this Madrid thing, really did think they'd wait until January - and they are skint, they shouldn't be allowed to do it but of course it's Madrid and miracles conveniently happen there. The club just have to be firm, and our fans have to not be obsessed with either turning on him for no reason or say that it'd be better in the long run. It won't, because the foundations aren't yet in place to sell such a key player.
 
BlueToff said:
He does want to play there too, wants the clean sweep (which is fair enough from his perspective) of the top five leagues. It's a big thing not many players have done.

But, he can do that in a year. Just depends what Mendes sets up. Juve will have a lot of financial wiggle room now but they need players out too - Ramsey (but injured), McKennie etc.

I'd be loathe to lose him I really would because he's magic and as much as I'm for hard work and effort you need quality as well and I don't think we have enough of it.

I am worried about Richarlison going. I'll admit I'm baffled by this Madrid thing, really did think they'd wait until January - and they are skint, they shouldn't be allowed to do it but of course it's Madrid and miracles conveniently happen there. The club just have to be firm, and our fans have to not be obsessed with either turning on him for no reason or say that it'd be better in the long run. It won't, because the foundations aren't yet in place to sell such a key player.
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People thought we'd be better after selling Lukaku and they were totally wrong. Anyone who thinks we would be better off if we sold Richarlison right before the deadline is totally wrong too. I pay little attention to opinions like that. He's our most important player - when he goes we are worse off.

I've been through my opinions on James. I see both sides of the coin and haven't a particularly strong opinion either way. If he stays, he'll offer something at points of the season. If he goes, we'll manage and keeping DCL and Richarlison is my bigger concern.
 

ToffeeTim said:
People thought we'd be better after selling Lukaku and they were totally wrong. Anyone who thinks we would be better off if we sold Richarlison right before the deadline is totally wrong too. I pay little attention to opinions like that. He's our most important player - when he goes we are worse off.

I've been through my opinions on James. I see both sides of the coin and haven't a particularly strong opinion either way. If he stays, he'll offer something at points of the season. If he goes, we'll manage and keeping DCL and Richarlison is my bigger concern.
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I agree on the last bit. If I had to pick one to lose, it'd be James. I just hope we actually manage to shift players who aren't as good at the old kicking a ball well, first.

Kean, Delph, Gomes (even though he played alright the other night). There's three players there who if we can shift bring us in either nominal loan fees or fees, but also in the case of the latter two, about £210k off the weekly wage books.
 
If we sell both Richarlison and Kean for big money, I could see a scenario where we maybe get a few less glamorous signings in around the £10-30m bracket, plus maybe a couple of loans, and potentially keeping James as a big name and an option for creativity.

Replacing Richarlison would be hard because everyone loves him and he does a lot for the team, and his profile is huge now. Kean has been a failed experiment which we were definitely right to try, but if we get a loan fee and a guaranteed transfer at the end, it will be a good deal. Add in last year's loan fee and 2 years of not paying his wages and we will have made a tidy profit on him in 3 years.

The players coming in won't be of the same profile and will likely be younger or players with something to prove, so I imagine they would be on more reasonable wages than we have offered in the recent past. It also means it would be a huge creative burden to put on whoever comes in to fill the void left by who is widely considered to be our best player. So it would make sense to keep 1 of them if the finances allow it.

We would essentially be losing Richarlison, Kean, James, Bernard and Voldemort in 1 summer. That's 5 out 7 attacking players on the books (I'm not even counting Tosun,or Walcott for that matter) and it's 1 hell of a turnover for any team and crazy to expect us to just hit the ground running.

If the new players are youngsters like Jebbison, or someone from a different league, they will need an adjustment period, so having a player like James would be more than a decent cover.
 
ToffeeTim said:
Could potentially see that tbf. Think Italy is the league most suited to him at this point.
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