January Transfer Thread 2017

hktoffee · February 1, 2017

DanB90 said:
I'm convinced a certain poster wakes up early just so he has more time in the day to hate Koeman.

He is waiting for the team to drop points.

Oh according to him the first five league games should not counted lol.

hallamblue · February 1, 2017

Zatara said:
Feel like im sticking up for @davek bit too much here lol

But...Koeman seemed to simply isolate lukaku by playing the midfield alot deeper and closer to the defence for many games this season. This of course nullified our attack and made barkley especially look hopeless but helped the defensive stats.

However, we have looked alot better defensively which is down to davies in as well as the added pace of holgate imo and i think with barry out we will be able to push up alot more

Everybody knows you build a club from the defence forward. Well, nearly everyone!

Zatara · February 1, 2017

hallamblue said:
Everybody knows you build a club from the defence forward. Well, nearly everyone!

I think one issue was playing Jags + Williams + Barry in the same team...just left us so deep.

Zatara · February 1, 2017

hktoffee said:
He is waiting for the team to drop points.

Oh according to him the first five league games should not counted lol.

Me?

Barnfred 55 · February 1, 2017

hktoffee said:
He is waiting for the team to drop points.

Oh according to him the first five league games should not counted lol.

Or the last 5 games.

if we didn't include the first 5 games or the last 5 games, we'd only have 10 points. That's less than Hull :eek:

Groucho · February 1, 2017

Lads this isn't a thread to discuss a certain member.

Thanks.

Barnfred 55 · February 1, 2017

Zatara said:
Me?

Stop being paranoidlol

Zatara · February 1, 2017

Barnfred 55 said:
Stop being paranoidlol

i knew who he was talking about...find it a bit odd that ive lost the Koeman hater mantle so soon tbh lol

Whats your view on the young keepers we have, do you think any are premiership potential? The reason i ask of course is due to the failed ramsdale bid...

Foot Long Hot Dog · February 1, 2017

Zatara said:
Feel like im sticking up for @davek bit too much here lol

But...Koeman seemed to simply isolate lukaku by playing the midfield alot deeper and closer to the defence for many games this season. This of course nullified our attack and made barkley especially look hopeless but helped the defensive stats.

However, we have looked alot better defensively which is down to davies in as well as the added pace of holgate imo and i think with barry out we will be able to push up alot more

Only we've scored more goals this season that we had to the same point last year mate

Zatara · February 1, 2017

Foot Long Hot Dog said:
Only we've scored more goals this season that we had to the same point last year mate

Surely thats also after we changed system and players though? id be surprised if that was the case before the formation change too.

nsno-chris · February 1, 2017

Zatara said:
Surely thats also after we changed system and players though? id be surprised if that was the case before the formation change too.

Isn't that what a manager is paid to do, find solutions rather than square peg, round hole week after week

Foot Long Hot Dog · February 1, 2017

Zatara said:
Surely thats also after we changed system and players though? id be surprised if that was the case before the formation change too.

It's the direct year on year comparison mate.

Zatara · February 1, 2017

nsno-chris said:
Isn't that what a manager is paid to do, find solutions rather than square peg, round hole week after week

Well my point was about the formation change and personnel changes inproving both aspects of goals scored and conceded....i remember @davek saying we looked better defensively as we were deeper which i agreed with at the time + id have been surprised if we were scoring alot of goals compared to previous seasons during that time.

i like the new system

davek · February 1, 2017

Rook said:
The market was crazy overvalued this year. Case in point we needed 25M for bolasie. The market is starting to cool a bit. Case in point the sales of Payet, Depay, Berihino and Van Aaronholt. So it probably made a little sense that we didn't dive right in. If anything we should have waited on Scheinderlein because I'm guessing he could have dropped to the 15M range by the end of this transfer window. There will be plenty of opportunties to fume if we stand pat in the offseason.

Glad I'm not that only one arguing this.

This gets to the heart of it: we have seen the squad come down in numbers, yet we need as a matter of urgency a very good GK; to get both FB positions properly sorted out in terms of strength in depth; we have a CB unit unfit for purpose as it's short of one in number right now and maybe even two by the summer; a winger situation that is nowhere near healthy, with one long term absentee who might not be as good when he comes back (and his good wasn't good enough to begin with), a 19 years old plus Mirallas - who will always let you down; we have to bring in a creative player up front and a new attacker.

For us to have that ^^^ much rebuilding to do and having already spent £70+M is nothing short of alarming.

If there's a plan being rolled out here it doesn't make sense to me.

davek · February 1, 2017

hallamblue said:
It does take time to turn a club around. Unless you are throwing £300m at it on day one, it will take 4 or 5 windows to get the squad you need, and even then you have to keep investing because, as you say, some players will be reaching the end. You can build a top 10 club for £100m over a couple of windows, but we, allegedly are aiming higher than that.

Four or five windows isn't going to fly. No one gets 2 and a half seasons to sort a squad out. The reason this feller will need one is because he refuses to adapt what's here and buy sensibly in the market. Everton the biggest spenders in the PL this January. FFS,. it's utterly laughable that we've paid premium rates on mediocrity.