January Transfer Thread 2017

[Deleted member 24970]

We couldn't sign Lamine Kone but people think we'll sign Van Dijk

Deary me

Kone has a new contract with £18m release clause doesn't he ? Well within reach now.

 

[JustOpp]

Then again mate can argue the fact in a squad which was disintegrating bringing in players of a currently peak age is a very good way to stabalise the squad initially, IF it continues that only 27+ age players are bought then yeah can be a problem down the road, but as a club we seem to still be targetting players under 21 for the academy who are quickly processed into the first team, Galloway, DCL and holgate, each of whom would if we wish (DLC aside as he's still unproven really) give a substantial profit in a few years time should we wish to sell

Agreed that it's important to strike the right balance, and there was a real need for a veteran to stabilize the defense. In that regard, each signing must be weighed on its own merits. Even when looking at the big picture, you can get away with selling a 22-year old for four or five players aged 27-33. You can create a solid two or three year window that way, but it's not the most optimal strategy for long-term health.

 

[catcherintherye]

I'm not arguing this point with you or @bluestevon. Analytics/Moneyball research should be treated like your sense of smell. It tips you off that there's something you don't see but should go look for (like a possible fire).

My primary point was that yes, Schneiderlin would be a good signing for the squad. But if Everton continue to invest mostly in players who have no sell-on value, in a few years they're going to have an old squad with little financial flexibility to get around FFP rules.

Your analysis and prognosis is a reasonable one. However clubs buying and selling strategies don't exist in a vacuum nor do they have limitless amount of capital to spend. If we had both of those things, of course all you would do is buy the best 18 year olds and train them up.

The reality is, there are varying costs for players. We like every other clubs also have to work within a budget. The smart way to operate is to try and identify where value is. Most clubs are looking to sign younger players and it has inflated the market substantially, meaning there is some value to be had with players who are a bit older. I think Schneiderlin falls into that category. I also think Williams does, and so too does Fonte at 5 million pounds.

When you consider what Tompkins went for or Stones it's hard not to say Williams is an astute buy. At 27 all of the studies you produced showed that players still have 3-4 years of performance above that of a 23 year old remaining. At the prices we are being quoted it makes sense to do business. In all honesty we couldn't afford a lad with Schneiderlin, Williams, Bolasie or Gueyes ability who was 23 or under. So we either sign inferior players or players we can buy now and hope to continue to make money from our academy/other avenues.

 

[Prevenger17]

He is meant to be a replacement for Barry? Why not. He worked perfectly in Koeman's system at Soton.

I just have an aversion to players who aren't getting first team football at their clubs

 

[andy4efc]

No point looking at videos of Morgs (yes, cba with his second name and i'd rather avoid a reply of Wes morgan).. in a United shirt, he has time to pick his pass. his performances in a saints shirt where he will be pressed is what we should be looking at.

 

[Goat]

Put that idea in the bin:



@MoutsGoat

Oh God, somebody check on @Zatara

 

[Connor]

IN: @Eric Djemba-Djemba , @Sapie88 , @MickM86

OUT: @hktoffee @Nil Satis Niasse Optimum

PERFECT WINDOW

Saps gone again? Furious.

*Heads to Twitter*

 

[JLW]

I just have an aversion to players who aren't getting first team football at their clubs

One mans junk is another mans treasure!

 

[MartSlinger]

I just have an aversion to players who aren't getting first team football at their clubs

Teams like Manchester United or others arent going to sell us their starters, nor would those starting for good teams want to join Everton. We cant just buy the best players of those below us, it will only get us so far.

 

[Goat]

Talking to a couple of people last night there seemed a lot of confidence that the targets identified were looking promising. Intention is to deal as early as possible with ideally 5 in and a similar number departing.

Finance is not an issue, there's no requirement to sell to buy but there is a recognition that there are too many drawing wages who are not contributing and won't contribute in the future.

As mentioned a couple of weeks ago, two pieces of incoming business from Manchester United in Schneiderlin and Depay.

Pickford is high on the radar.

Ive already said 5 Ins.

 

[BlueToff]

Kone has a new contract with £18m release clause doesn't he ? Well within reach now.

Pointless, he's off to AFCON

 

[TheFinnFan]

I mean personally will go for a tall keeper at a good age at 27, 28.

Thats what im hoping too.

 

[nsno-chris]

No need for introduction, you're a legend.

Oh sweet jesus

 

[BlueToff]

No point looking at videos of Morgs (yes, cba with his second name and i'd rather avoid a reply of Wes morgan).. in a United shirt, he has time to pick his pass. his performances in a saints shirt where he will be pressed is what we should be looking at.

and he was class for Saints

 

[carolinablue232]

Pointless, he's off to AFCON

So sign him the last week of January instead?