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January Transfer Thread 2020

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....another young CB. Perhaps we’ve turned attention from Branthwaite to Hamilton who plays for Hamilton.
Is this the fella davek was going on about the other day?


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Think @davek Was talking about another defender...

Wouldnt be surprised if we were after both him and branthwaite as it seems our u23 cbs arent sticking around / pulling up trees...apart from maybe the Welsh one...? Astley.
 
Which makes it even more silly that people are sneering at a fabricated story.

I mean I just can’t fathom why one of the greatest managers in the modern game would say he has the potential to be world class when he’s utter cack. What IS Carlo smoking??

He’s trying to keep his confidence high, you really think a man that has managed players like Ronaldo , Ibra, lewandowski etc thinks lewin is world class?
 
On a business level that needs to happen, sell to buy with small positive net spends mate, it should be a sell to buy philosophy until at least 2023. Player trading or whatever you want to call it, is what the business needs. Until the squad is regulated and trimmed of cost. Over that time frame you would hope for a soft landing with lads contracts running out or selling for their book prices at the very least. Then we have a few academy lads that are pure profits. Like Pennighton or Dowell even DCL and Davis as surprising as that sounds as they are pure profit players. We might also see a big sale like Pickford, Richarlison, Gylfi, Digne etc players there is a market for. That may be unavoidable. There are two ways of getting income in to the club until the ground is built 1) through commercial deals and 2) player trading/wages saved. The latter the most likely.

Practically speaking, all fit our philosophy appears to be going young, developing and hoping for the best. we have had awful luck with injuries this season all fit can we get a purr out of our existing squad all fit? maybe with Carlo, would you back Brands to player trade and make three good signings over two or three summer windows? maybe. Its the way we will have to go unfortunately, take your medicine stuff. in my opinion.

Unless Usminov, if you believe he is involved comes in and sponsors Goodison for 100 mill a year, unlikely i would say. Getting money into the club is an issue.

I think what people need to understand is what is different from these accounts that are being released and the seasons before that account for the record loss.

Are there figures that are one offs such as managerial compensation or the expenditure of the new stadium that will be moved to a new holdings once it has its planning permission approved and won't affect our accounts afterwards.

Players wages will always be a factor but as stated before over the next 18 months we will be saving around 450,000 through expiring contracts. That's not including players who you would exspect to move on like tosun, bolasie, Pennington, Dowell, besic ect.

My point being is what is the reason for the record loss and is it going to be a sustained period of loss. If not the the we can just focus on getting out of the mess previous regimes have left us in and wright this off as a one off.

I don't see this as a issue in the long term but I do think us being in Europe is a big factor in the future financial plans of the club and if we continue to fail at that then we may be in trouble from a ffp stand point.
 

Yep. Think I will!!

Honestly, we are going to be looking at loans, any deals that seem too good to pass up and maybe a bid for a player that Carlo really wants. With more of an overhaul in the summer. That will be exactly as planned a couple of weeks back.

Dead right need to replace the big ends.
 
Had to google Tavares, never seen him play.

Svilar (sp) the young keeper seems to have dropped off the radar...replaced by the greek(?)...was he a dud?

He’s still super young so maybe just a bit too much too soon, only seen him play once and he had a shocker. Vlacho is brilliant though and getting better every year. I remember having him out loan in a Stuttgart CM on FIFA years ago and he was rubbish.
 
I think what people need to understand is what is different from these accounts that are being released and the seasons before that account for the record loss.

Are there figures that are one offs such as managerial compensation or the expenditure of the new stadium that will be moved to a new holdings once it has its planning permission approved and won't affect our accounts afterwards.

Players wages will always be a factor but as stated before over the next 18 months we will be saving around 450,000 through expiring contracts. That's not including players who you would exspect to move on like tosun, bolasie, Pennington, Dowell, besic ect.

My point being is what is the reason for the record loss and is it going to be a sustained period of loss. If not the the we can just focus on getting out of the mess previous regimes have left us in and wright this off as a one off.

I don't see this as a issue in the long term but I do think us being in Europe is a big factor in the future financial plans of the club and if we continue to fail at that then we may be in trouble from a ffp stand point.

Its never good, and im sure the regime didnt intend or expect to have to make a loss, certainly one not as significant as this.

Sad thing is the management compensation figures haven't proven to be be a once of loss we are on to our fourth managerial package of compensation, with Silvas to come next year.

The new stadium expenditure can be written of 30 mill of our losses once PP is approved for FFP purposes, but its still money being spent by the club in the real world.

Our wage to turnover ratio is hitting the 75% mark which is ridiculous and unsustainable, if you do a cost benefit analysis of the squad it highlights everything i am saying about incompetent decisions. Do our squad deserve to earning 75% of what Everton make, or deserve to enabling a 90-100 mill loss. No way, it highlights the incompetent decisions. That isnt a moment in time once of cost, its an annual one until contracts run out and it has come due to bad decisions.

Its not getting over some horrific previous regime though is it, we were carrying 40 mill of debt before the take over, we are carrying 66milll now, ahead of accounts showing a 100 mill loss, its the bad decisions of this regime that are now starting to accumulate record debt. You would say fine if we had qualified for the CL or challenged this year, we haven't been in an arses roar of that. And just a few short weeks ago we said fine and hit reboot again - for the fourth time and go through the whole process again. The book stops at this regime.

Its not good enough, to say fine we need to do this to get better - we arent - we are getting worse. Its not good enough to say this is the result of a previous regime - its not. The club has been in quick sand since the take over and the sand is reaching our necks.

The financial position is being impacted long term, debt is rising, wage to turnover is huge, we dont look like making more income and FFP inhibit us from making a 115 mill loss over three years. This year we are posting almost 100 mill year 1 of that cycle - thats pretty straight forward maths going forward and dont have to be a genius to work out that the club without additional income is in squeaky bum mode in terms of being able to invest any more artificially from owners. We now need to player trade and that has real world consequences for the team and progressing it.

Its a mess and going to be an ongoing mess.
 
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