January Transfer Window 2023

[Jimishorts]

Obviously Broja on loan until the end of the season would be the most Everton option.

 

[BlueToff]

The fact we’re resorting to pretending he’s a creative player certainly is an issue.

I mean he is a creative player but he's not a playmaker who runs a game, for sure.

The evidence is there. He ranks pretty high for chances created (11th in the whole league with 28, all of those from open play) and then when it comes to assists he ranks joint third in the league with 5, behind only Saka (6) and KDB (9).

So I mean, that is 'creative' by most metrics, there's no pretending about it. It's why we want him to be playing further up but we then don't seem to have a way of connecting the dots regularly enough to get the ball to him, and he just either fades completely or runs about like a mad man and we lose all shape. He isn't though someone who's going to play an outrageous pass like De Bruyne or an inch-perfect throughball.

Worth noting there that he's vastly outperforming his expected assists, which are only at 1.6 (2 to round up as we all know you can't provide .6 of a goal). This is the actual way you quantify the quality of chances he's making.

Most players at the top are outperforming their xA (even De Bruyne), but most of them not by the scale that Iwobi is, so basically some of those assists he's got have relied on the players finishing them to have done better than would be expected - like Dom v Palace for example.

All that being said, I do think it's an issue we rely on Iwobi to be our ONLY creative outlet and have nothing else to offer from anyone, with the wingers and full-backs the main culprits there. So we need signings - a creative player for sure - to take the burden off and hopefully improve on what Iwobi offers.

 

[Bebeto]

They’ve just spent 40mil on the chuna or however you spell it and have Hwang, Jimenez and Costa and the other lad They spent money on who got injured In his first game.

Exactly...wolves is playing a dangerous game but clearly mendes is the one controlling things there. They were not in a great shape from a financial perspective back in the summer and they had to sell before buying. Their bench is looking so much better than us is unreal and they want to improve it further. No chance they'll be relegated as they have a lot of quality all over the pitch...with the new manager and the new signings they'll be climbing the table soon.

 

[mikel_88]

Its more a case of relying rather than trusting. Keep saying it's not his fault he's injured. State of some folk in here.

I cant trust him not to pick up injuries is the same with mina, is hard not to get frustrated.

 

[Curtis]

I wish Everton would sign a player now so we can get inevitable disappointment of how underwhelming they'll be, purged from our systems

 

[billyblue80]

I wish Everton would sign a player now so we can get inevitable disappointment of how underwhelming they'll be, purged from our systems

Elanga worries me if we are loaning someone, a United squad player isn't going to move the needle for us, all of our wingers are already squad players . If its Sancho yes but the Elanga kid just looks another squad player

 

[blueboy72]

Exactly...wolves is playing a dangerous game but clearly mendes is the one controlling things there. They were not in a great shape from a financial perspective back in the summer and they had to sell before buying. Their bench is looking so much better than us is unreal and they want to improve it further. No chance they'll be relegated as they have a lot of quality all over the pitch...with the new manager and the new signings they'll be climbing the table soon.

I read they had to sell, they have sold Gibbs white and dedoncker, was that about 50mil? but spent 140mil I think Cunha was loan with obligation, but they will have that 40mil on their books next year along with another lad they’ve done a similar deal for, which is 10mil.

They will surely have to sell some players in the summer.

 

[blueboy72]

Elanga worries me if we are loaning someone, a United squad player isn't going to move the needle for us, all of our wingers are already squad players . If its Sancho yes but the Elanga kid just looks another squad player

We shouldn’t loan him imo, and waste a loan spot on an unproven kid. Maybe last day if the window if we’re struggling to get players in. With Chelsea going after Enzo Fernandes and looking at other midfielders. Maybe a cheeky loan for Gallagher. And sell davies and doucoure

 

[hktoffee]

Moving late on targets appears to be a new strategy with thelwell...onana was a late move after west ham made the initial approach. Maupay move was also late whilst it was clear he had no intention of staying at brighton or brighton had no intention of offering him an extension, and we tried a late move on morgan gibbs-white after initial approach from forest. It appears that we are doing the same this time around. We were probably in for cunha as soon as wolves went in but with the fee required probably backed out from the deal. It will be the same for gyokeres and/or brereton diaz. They're trying to look like they're in control but clearly our results would suggest otherwise.

Luckily we did not sign him.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Yeah look I think if he's getting £100k a week it's daft.

I'd be offering him the same terms, perhaps with more incentives, but just on a two-year extension.

FWIW any deal now that is struck with any player is going to have relegation clauses in, which makes the whole signing players thing even more difficult.

Same terms isn't going to get signed

 

[ToffeeTim]

Same terms isn't going to get signed

Then let him see who else will pay him 100 grand a week

 

[BigDuncTributeBand]

It's more to do with who we can structure any deals with, we are shopping in a limited market I'm afraid.

This is it, I’d guess. It’s not that we don’t have targets or that we don’t want to bring players in at the start of the window, of course Lampard and Thelwell do. They’re likely having to wait to see who is left available and for deals to be done with the limited funds available. Sadly.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Then let him see who else will pay him 100 grand a week

That's not what I was saying. I'd not pay him 100k, but if you don't bump his wage at all he's going to say no.

 

[billyblue80]

This is it, I’d guess. It’s not that we don’t have targets or that we don’t want to bring players in at the start of the window, of course Lampard and Thelwell do. They’re likely having to wait to see who is left available and for deals to be done with the limited funds available. Sadly.

Yes but we could also shift a few to free up funds clearly Keane is off he wasn't on the bench on Boxing day.

 

[matty1878]

This is it, I’d guess. It’s not that we don’t have targets or that we don’t want to bring players in at the start of the window, of course Lampard and Thelwell do. They’re likely having to wait to see who is left available and for deals to be done with the limited funds available. Sadly.

which is a disgrace and it’s gambling our PL status