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January transfer window 2024

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ForeverBlue92 said:
Man tried but a mixture of poor decision making & events out of his control (Ukraine War) has left us in a precarious position with these corrupt P&S rules destined to strangle us to try bat off independent regulation.

Unfortunately the only alternative at this point is 777 who are penniless crooks.

The early Moshiri era wasn't the disaster some make out - Multiple 8th place finishes, building BMD, appointing Carlo Ancelotti as manager and every manager backed to the hilt in the transfer window. If 777 came in & delivered us the above - everyone on the forum would be pleasantly suprised - so how its viewed as a "disaster" is silly.

The moment it went "wrong" was the corrupt P&S rules leading to us needing to stop spending circa 2-3 seasons back whilst having to start selling our better players like Richy & Gordon with no room to replace them with like for like quality. Throw in USM being suspended and our main benefactor unable to keep funding us/BMD it's turned into a disaster but make no mistake we've been very unlucky in the most part.
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Great and very sensible summary.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
Man tried but a mixture of poor decision making & events out of his control (Ukraine War) has left us in a precarious position with these corrupt P&S rules destined to strangle us to try bat off independent regulation.

Unfortunately the only alternative at this point is 777 who are penniless crooks.

The early Moshiri era wasn't the disaster some make out - Multiple 8th place finishes, building BMD, appointing Carlo Ancelotti my sweet Rafael as manager and every manager backed to the hilt in the transfer window. If 777 came in & delivered us the above - everyone on the forum would be pleasantly suprised - so how its viewed as a "disaster" is silly.

The moment it went "wrong" was the corrupt P&S rules leading to us needing to stop spending circa 2-3 seasons back whilst having to start selling our better players like Richy & Gordon with no room to replace them with like for like quality. Throw in USM being suspended and our main benefactor unable to keep funding us/BMD it's turned into a disaster but make no mistake we've been very unlucky in the most part.
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No need to hide.
 
Street end man said:
What is. The lad called it how it happened. Sure Moshiri didn't splash 28m on Tosun without crap advice too😅
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“Multiple 8th place finishes” what am I supposed to thank him for that? We finished 5th two years before he turned up.

“Appointing Carlo Ancelotti” yeah and allowed him to have a stupid clause in his contract meaning he could walk away for nothing a year into his contract. Ancelotti was never the right appointment for where we were. He then went and appointed Benitez against the wishes of the entire fanbase and the rest of the board.

“Building BMD” yeah with no funding in place other than taking the begging bowl to Usmanov again which is how we basically ran the club for the whole 6 years prior to the sanctions. Even without the sanctions it was never a proper and sustainable way to run a football club. The decision to build the stadium with no funding in place is what’s killed us, so I refuse to look at the stadium as a positive right now.

So yes, a vast text of nonsense.
 

MikeH72 said:
“Multiple 8th place finishes” what am I supposed to thank him for that? We finished 5th two years before he turned up.

“Appointing Carlo Ancelotti” yeah and allowed him to have a stupid clause in his contract meaning he could walk away for nothing a year into his contract. Ancelotti was never the right appointment for where we were. He then went and appointed Benitez against the wishes of the entire fanbase and the rest of the board.

“Building BMD” yeah with no funding in place other than taking the begging bowl to Usmanov again which is how we basically ran the club for the whole 6 years prior to the sanctions. Even without the sanctions it was never a proper and sustainable way to run a football club. The decision to build the stadium with no funding in place is what’s killed us, so I refuse to look at the stadium as a positive right now.

So yes, a vast text of nonsense.
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You missed off the corrupt PL that made us spend 600million on Yannick Bolaisie and friends.
 
MikeH72 said:
“Multiple 8th place finishes” what am I supposed to thank him for that? We finished 5th two years before he turned up.

“Appointing Carlo Ancelotti” yeah and allowed him to have a stupid clause in his contract meaning he could walk away for nothing a year into his contract. Ancelotti was never the right appointment for where we were. He then went and appointed Benitez against the wishes of the entire fanbase and the rest of the board.

“Building BMD” yeah with no funding in place other than taking the begging bowl to Usmanov again which is how we basically ran the club for the whole 6 years prior to the sanctions. Even without the sanctions it was never a proper and sustainable way to run a football club. The decision to build the stadium with no funding in place is what’s killed us, so I refuse to look at the stadium as a positive right now.

So yes, a vast text of nonsense.
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This is where it becomes hard in type on a forum rather than a face to face chat. I agree with one hell of a lot you say there.
 
We would have to sell to buy & reduce our wage bill - 777 keep on loaning us money it may be just to pay the massive wage bill we have created on duds - e.g. Deli Ali - a master of how not to do deals by the late BK .....
Even Fat Sam - I had no money to spend = Tuson & Walcott think of the wages was it value for money = No - that is just 3 examples .....

I/2 a billion on transfers - did you see any of it on the pitch on Saturday = NO -

It's sad to say over the park they sell unknowns & get more for our so-called stars we purchased with zilch sell on fees - Swansea took 90 million off us for 5 million return .....

You simply can't run a club like this ....

The new ground BK messed up the King's dock failed for £30 million of outside investment - The Kirby debacle cost un known etc ....

I went on a ground tour years ago, I could not purchase a cup of tea ? I had Birthday money to spend on books etc, nothing there - in fact programmes & stuff were handed out free of charge ????

A great Ground tour by the trainers' wife Jimmy Martin - from way back then, a badly run club .....

Gordon Watson & Dave Hickson did those tours for the love of our club - so-called younger players do it - it's 3 times the price no doubt them wanting a fee on top of the payment they were already on ! .... not for the love of the club - commercially even way back then we were inept - with a clown like BK at the realm ....

Prescot Cables are run better than that ..... to survive on fund-raising etc .... my late Uncle used to play for them his son sadly taken so young with a brain tumour - was given a short life span - he contacted Cables & they offered him money which he refused - he was only glad the memories of his late father who was a dashing winger for them in the 1950s went into their museum of memorabilia ..

Rant over ....
 

Joey66 said:
We would have to sell to buy & reduce our wage bill - 777 keep on loaning us money it may be just to pay the massive wage bill we have created on duds - e.g. Deli Ali - a master of how not to do deals by the late BK .....
Even Fat Sam - I had no money to spend = Tuson & Walcott think of the wages was it value for money = No - that is just 3 examples .....

I/2 a billion on transfers - did you see any of it on the pitch on Saturday = NO -

It's sad to say over the park they sell unknowns & get more for our so-called stars we purchased with zilch sell on fees - Swansea took 90 million off us for 5 million return .....

You simply can't run a club like this ....

The new ground BK messed up the King's dock failed for £30 million of outside investment - The Kirby debacle cost un known etc ....

I went on a ground tour years ago, I could not purchase a cup of tea ? I had Birthday money to spend on books etc, nothing there - in fact programmes & stuff were handed out free of charge ????

A great Ground tour by the trainers' wife Jimmy Martin - from way back then, a badly run club .....

Gordon Watson & Dave Hickson did those tours for the love of our club - so-called younger players do it - it's 3 times the price no doubt them wanting a fee on top of the payment they were already on ! .... not for the love of the club - commercially even way back then we were inept - with a clown like BK at the realm ....

Prescot Cables are run better than that ..... to survive on fund-raising etc .... my late Uncle used to play for them his son sadly taken so young with a brain tumour - was given a short life span - he contacted Cables & they offered him money which he refused - he was only glad the memories of his late father who was a dashing winger for them in the 1950s went into their museum of memorabilia ..

Rant over ....
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Bloody hell Joey,that’s a weird name for his Mrs mate😉😂😂😂
 
Street end man said:
Great and very sensible summary.
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What you're seeing before your very eyes is the phenomenon of social media - you can give any man (or woman) a keyboard and mouse and they can go from being a fully abled & functioning member of society, to an individual with the intellectual capacity of a flea bitten chimp that can only see football or politics through a black or white lense.

You look at the last 3 years and there are many hands at play who have made some kind of decision or action (some more than others) that have contributed to our current position - Moshiri, Kenwright, Sharp, Brands, Thelwell, Benitez, Lampard, Dyche, Putin, Masters, Johnson.

It is folly to identify just one individual as being the cause of the decline. I had a look yesterday and seen the usual suspects salivating at the thought of Sean Dyche being potted, with talk of appointing a man like Graham Potter who can play attacking football as that will suddenly make everything all better. o_O
 

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