John Stones transfer saga

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terraloon said:
To a degree yes in relation to TV money being huge but that will be about £6 million less than in 2013/14 add to that no run of note in either of the domestic cups and some £28 million less in transfer income things won't be a rosy as some are expecting. Ok there was the EL but that won't have brought that much in and based on what we know commercial income will not have grown by astronomical amounts

There may be some left in the existing transfer budget as it stands but I doubt there is but let's suppose there is I doubt there is enough to buy even a top championship player

The commitment made to buy Deulofeu following his loan spell and the free signing of Cleverley which when I say free will have come at a cost of a million or so by the time you factor in a signing on fees, agent fees etc will I suspect have just about taken care of the readily available funds needed for the up front transfer fees . There may have been a boost in cash received from players sold in or before 2014 but that will not have balanced out against players purchased last season.


The squad is far from balanced.iIts no secret that the manager wants more in and will be trying to pull in favours but in these days of FFP and the supposed wealth of PL clubs everything will come at a cost.

My guess is that Everton will try and get players in before any sale is announced, which is going to happen before the end of September, for once clubs get a sniff that another club has money the price is driven up

Time of course will tell but irrespective the Stones deal will happen at some point in the next 12 months my guess it will be sooner rather than later
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No on all fronts.

That starts ok. Then turns into conspiracy theory nonsense then how we 'have no money'

Which is wrong.
 
allen said:
I think that's absolutely right. Hatred for the board, and the bad taste of past experience is clouding a lot of people's judgement.

We've got to be one of the toughest negotiators when it comes to selling players now. Look at what we got for Lescott and Fellaini - and they wanted out. Beyond them, I suppose you could single out the Arteta transfer - but nothing else since Rooney.

We don't need to sell to buy, and I'm certain we'll see that to be true before the window closes.

I think that if we do sell Stones, it'd be for way above his objective value. I just don't believe any club is willing to pay that. This media offensive by Chelsea has been about trying to soften us up, and hope that Stones sticks the knife in to force us to sell on their terms. It hasn't happened.

The club has handled this brilliantly so far, in my mind. Not least the way they've refused to publicly engage in Jose's games.
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Good post.....but you missed the clowning glory.....£6.5M for Victor Anichibie....yes, £6.5M................
 
allen said:
I think that's absolutely right. Hatred for the board, and the bad taste of past experience is clouding a lot of people's judgement.

We've got to be one of the toughest negotiators when it comes to selling players now. Look at what we got for Lescott and Fellaini - and they wanted out. Beyond them, I suppose you could single out the Arteta transfer - but nothing else since Rooney.

We don't need to sell to buy, and I'm certain we'll see that to be true before the window closes.

I think that if we do sell Stones, it'd be for way above his objective value. I just don't believe any club is willing to pay that. This media offensive by Chelsea has been about trying to soften us up, and hope that Stones sticks the knife in to force us to sell on their terms. It hasn't happened.

The club has handled this brilliantly so far, in my mind. Not least the way they've refused to publicly engage in Jose's games.
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Chelsea have been made to look like idiots here.

Its like their media tidal wave...


Just hit the brick wall outside Goodison....

And was obliterated.

Jose Mourinho's public climb down tells its own story.
 
terraloon said:
To a degree yes in relation to TV money being huge but that will be about £6 million less than in 2013/14 add to that no run of note in either of the domestic cups and some £28 million less in transfer income things won't be a rosy as some are expecting. Ok there was the EL but that won't have brought that much in and based on what we know commercial income will not have grown by astronomical amounts

There may be some left in the existing transfer budget as it stands but I doubt there is but let's suppose there is I doubt there is enough to buy even a top championship player

The commitment made to buy Deulofeu following his loan spell and the free signing of Cleverley which when I say free will have come at a cost of a million or so by the time you factor in a signing on fees, agent fees etc will I suspect have just about taken care of the readily available funds needed for the up front transfer fees . There may have been a boost in cash received from players sold in or before 2014 but that will not have balanced out against players purchased last season.


The squad is far from balanced.iIts no secret that the manager wants more in and will be trying to pull in favours but in these days of FFP and the supposed wealth of PL clubs everything will come at a cost.

My guess is that Everton will try and get players in before any sale is announced, which is going to happen before the end of September, for once clubs get a sniff that another club has money the price is driven up

Time of course will tell but irrespective the Stones deal will happen at some point in the next 12 months my guess it will be sooner rather than later
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How will the TV money be £6M less than last year? It's not just based on number of live matches, and we exited both cups at stage one last year so any improvement will be financially beneficial? The Europa league costs money as opposed to makes money unless you make the final....on that basis we have around ten loss-making games less this season.
Saying Stones will be sold at some point in the next 12 months is such a simple,throw-away negative comment....you could say that about every single player in football....didn't Di Maria cost £57M less than 12 months ago and now he's being dumped at a huge loss?
So, who are we selling before the end of September bearing in mind the window closes at the beginning of that month....or am I missing something?
 

bizzaro said:
Chelsea have been made to look like idiots here.

Its like their media tidal wave...


Just hit the brick wall outside Goodison....

And was obliterated.

Jose Mourinho's public climb down tells its own story.
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It did....but the buffoon will be back with another bid for sure. However, I think he'll damage his chrome work even more as I really don't think Everton will sell this season. Irrespective, Joses and Chelsea's ignorance and nonchalance in approach will likely have driven the eventual price up significantly if and when either Stones decides to go or Everton decide to cash their chips. Everton have done the perfect job in the affair so far.
 


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