That pair of yard dogs cant even perfect a 5 yard pass, stones is already better than both of them put together
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Player Valuation: £40m
Woy is a football dinosaur, Smalling and Jones should be nowhere near the WC squad. This is why England won't get past the group stage.
Christiffa25
Player Valuation: £35m
You can replace a player getting injured right up to the WC starting I believe.
Jones looked ok last night tbf and he is versatile, smalling showed how poor he really is! My issue is both going. If utd go with them two next season at CB (which I hope they do) they will struggle to even match this years lofty 7th place!
TheFinnFan
Finners
Hodgson is mad as a hatter if he sends Stones home
We all know Stones will be amazing (he already is).
I feel for Phil Jones - the lad is extremely talented but has been played in that many positions over the last couple of seasons it's affected his development. Sometimes right back, sometimes centre back and sometimes holding midfielder. He's capable of playing them all but needs a position (centre back) to stick to and learn completely. For some reason it's in my mind that he's also been a little unlucky with injuries (I might be wrong with that though). He's no where near as bad as some are making out. Was fantastic when he was at Blackburn.
Him and Stones together would be a really good combination as both can defend and use the ball well.
I feel for Phil Jones - the lad is extremely talented but has been played in that many positions over the last couple of seasons it's affected his development. Sometimes right back, sometimes centre back and sometimes holding midfielder. He's capable of playing them all but needs a position (centre back) to stick to and learn completely. For some reason it's in my mind that he's also been a little unlucky with injuries (I might be wrong with that though). He's no where near as bad as some are making out. Was fantastic when he was at Blackburn.
Him and Stones together would be a really good combination as both can defend and use the ball well.
harris78
Phil Nevs Pointy Finger
Ive slated the guy numerous times but to be fair you are most probably right, hes ended up being a jack of all trades rather than a master of one. This is where he could do with a Roberto type manager to get him in the team in his correct position and give him encouragement etc. That player from Blackburn may well be found again then.
Jags..class
Player Valuation: £70m
I agree that Phil Jones was a fantastic prospect at Blackburn but he has stalled at Man u and that will be down to playing different positions. Deffo would have him at Everton but I believe Man u still have faith in him.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Like the tweets on the last page.
I know we have
Jagielka
Distin
Duffy
Browning
Alcaraz
And with stones that makes 6 centre backs. But distin will be gone in a season or two, alcaraz isnt good enough and shouldd be offloaded.
Obviously jagielka as captain and senior centre back will be here until retirement. That leaves duffy and browning -- will they be the ones to partner stones long term?
I think martinez will slowly phase out distin and alcaraz and see if browning or duffy can step up.
Who do you think his ideal partner would be? Id like to see us go young and english again, gomez, lascalles or dier perhaps?
I know we have
Jagielka
Distin
Duffy
Browning
Alcaraz
And with stones that makes 6 centre backs. But distin will be gone in a season or two, alcaraz isnt good enough and shouldd be offloaded.
Obviously jagielka as captain and senior centre back will be here until retirement. That leaves duffy and browning -- will they be the ones to partner stones long term?
I think martinez will slowly phase out distin and alcaraz and see if browning or duffy can step up.
Who do you think his ideal partner would be? Id like to see us go young and english again, gomez, lascalles or dier perhaps?
Hope that either/both Browning or Duffy can make it - have a bit more faith the former will be a "Martinez" player than the latter though. Was impressed with Gomez in the England games, would be interesting to see if he is open to a move.
As a player it must be so good to know your manager has faith and confidence in you
And the supporters, I might add...
Blue Cheese
Mental Patient, GOT Ward
I wish people would stop hyping this kid out of the water. I fear we are putting far too much pressure on him. He's got all the attributes but he's still young and learning.
He's ready to take Everton and England by storm in the near future but if you think he won't make mistakes at his age you're in for a shock and then what, he'll be crucified as always happens.
Too much expectation too soon at least let him get a full top flight season under his belt before proclaiming him the new Beckenbauer.
He's ready to take Everton and England by storm in the near future but if you think he won't make mistakes at his age you're in for a shock and then what, he'll be crucified as always happens.
Too much expectation too soon at least let him get a full top flight season under his belt before proclaiming him the new Beckenbauer.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Beckenbauer? Hes the new rio ferdinand mate.
Think stones wil be fine, look at how hes stepped up from barnsley to us and us to england....pirlo penalty included.
Think stones wil be fine, look at how hes stepped up from barnsley to us and us to england....pirlo penalty included.
Blue Cheese
Mental Patient, GOT Ward
I'm not saying he won't be fine but some of the hype is so overboard. Let the lad play he doesn't need that at his age.
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