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John Stones

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bicycleheader said:
Well I am sorry if I like that a young player at Everton has the confidence to know he can go inside in the box and then get away from his man or if not can turn the hapless bugger again and go the other way.

As you also go on about. Its a long term thing here. Give them the confidence to show their talent and we reap the benefits. Punting at times is fine, of course, but I don't think we should whinge and moan at a great young player because he tried something risky just because another player in another game got caught out. Thats Moyes thinking that... ;)
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To be fair, if we were on a run like Spurs are with a solid defence and a Champions League position, I might agree with you.
 

Still can't quite believe his "fackyou" moment, clearly mouthing it after his prolonged twists and turns in his own box.

As I have said before, he knows what the commonsense option is but is purposely choosing to ignore it (clearly with Roberto's blessing). His reaction to the crowd spoke volumes, this is how I play, take it or leave it.
 
I'm all for playing out from the back but that incident today was ridiculous. He had the chance to play a simple back pass at least once and clear it at least three times. He got away with it big time and could have cost us the game.
 
We honestly getting upset about a 22 year old centre half showing that hes got more skill and composure than most players in the prem?
 
bicycleheader said:
Well I am sorry if I like that a young player at Everton has the confidence to know he can go inside in the box and then get away from his man or if not can turn the hapless bugger again and go the other way.

As you also go on about. Its a long term thing here. Give them the confidence to show their talent and we reap the benefits. Punting at times is fine, of course, but I don't think we should whinge and moan at a great young player because he tried something risky just because another player in another game got caught out. Thats Moyes thinking that... ;)
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...but it's time and place mate. After a month of Keystone Cops defending you have to get a bit of basics into your defending.

I want football from the back, of course. But arseing around like that deep in your own box in this climate is not part of that deal.
 

ToffeeDoug said:
Still can't quite believe his "fackyou" moment, clearly mouthing it after his prolonged twists and turns in his own box.

As I have said before, he knows what the commonsense option is but is purposely choosing to ignore it (clearly with Roberto's blessing). His reaction to the crowd spoke volumes, this is how I play, take it or leave it.
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Yep.

But get rid of him anyway.
 
Dutch Toffee said:
Never had the feeling that Stones would mess it up. As long as he's in posession of the ball he seems to be in total controle.
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Which is fine, and I agree, but if we know that is how he is going to play, then so do the opposition and he will become a marked man for being pressed down, if he isn't already.
 
davek said:
...but it's time and place mate. After a month of Keystone Cops defending you have to get a bit of basics into your defending.

I want football from the back, of course. But arseing around like that deep in your own box in this climate is not part of that deal.
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He's 22. He'll learn.
 
The Equaliser said:
It is naive in the extreme to be encouraging any defender to do Cruyff turns in their own 6 yard box, especially when it involves running towards their own goal. There is a time and a place for everything.

Also he didn't have to punt it. He could have clipped in to a midfielder.
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There's a big difference between not encouraging him and booing him, though. I can't think of any other park in the league where players get booed for hypothetical mistakes that haven't actually happened.
 

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