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2018/19 Jonjoe Kenny

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Seems to me that Coleman has been a 6/10 player for a while now....If Kenny can perform at 6-7/10 this season then he should keep his place...

I think that if Kenny can do that then he will become a solid player for us. This season we aren't competing in the league and id like to see how players can step up and perform over and above what they've previously shown...so would hope Kenny can do that for us, then climb up to a tasty 7/10 next season.
Not saying that Coleman will ever get back to near his best Zat, but if he does then JJs still a good 2/3 years away from that level, if he ever get's there. Plus Coleman should have another couple of years left in him so I'm not writing him off yet. A fully fit and in form Seamus Coleman is the heartbeat of this team.

We may not be going for the league this year but we have to definitely aim for a European position so we can attract better players. We can't just write this season off to develop our younger players, which I think is what you're suggesting.
 
Seamus Coleman apart from his ability brings experience and leadership to the team , any manager who has the actual responsibility of picking a team and getting results will not play a youngster like Kenny ahead of the finished article Coleman.
 
You'd be mad to replace Kenny atm.
When he shows signs of fatigue, yes but until then Seamus should have to force his way in - the best thing for both their development.
I don't think we would be. Seamus has been one of the best right backs in the premier league for the last 5/6 years. He could easily have gone to bigger clubs and won things but has been loyal to us. He is our heartbeat.

I'm one of JJs biggest supporters on here and I think he's done really well since he's come in to cover for Seamus. He's done so well that there is definitely no rush to bring him back until he's absolutely fully fit. But once he is, he should be brought back in and made our captain.

I agree that his form has been pretty patchy so far this season, but he 100% deserves our support and the opportunity to play himself back into form. As good a prospect as JJ is, he is currently nowhere near the quality of an in form Coleman. If he continues to struggle, then by all means bring back Kenny. But right now, once fit, Seamus needs to be given a chance. He 100% deserves it and I can't understand those who appear to be writing him off already.
 

Didn't say it was a given mate. You need to read my post again. And you could well be right about it not happening.

But IMO, and I bow to your vastly superior football knowledge in saying this, the odds on Seamus regaining his pre injury form this season, are a lot higher than the chances of JJ reaching those same levels of quality during the same timespan. I'm not saying that JJ will never reach those levels, but he will have to improve enormously to do so and he certainly won't do it this season.

In other words, for this season, Seamus getting back to form gives us more of an upside than continuing with JJ in the role. Which is why I'm surprised that Zat said he wants JJ to win the battle for RB this season. I'd much rather Seamus got his mojo back. Wouldn't you?

Yeh that does seem like a bizarre little discussion you and Zat had there though. My opinion?

Coleman is average now and will remain that way till he leaves/retires. Kenny will never be good enough to be a PL starter if we have hopes of being a top top team.
 
Yeh that does seem like a bizarre little discussion you and Zat had there though. My opinion?

Coleman is average now and will remain that way till he leaves/retires. Kenny will never be good enough to be a PL starter if we have hopes of being a top top team.
I hope you're wrong on both counts Nymz. Especially Seamus. It would be a shame if we've already seen the best of him.
 
All bad injuries have a serious effect but hopefully he still has the time to get back most of his qualities. It would be great if Kenny ever became half the player of Coleman.
 
Kenny isn't very good. Lost count of how many times he gave the ball away.

Did think he'd scored a screamer though.
 


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