2020/21 JonJoe Kenny

[roy vernon]

I don’t think, given his lack of pace and physique, that he will ever be quite good enough for this league.

 

[everton1953]

Basically crap. I wonder what the krauts thought of him in their league?

 

[AussieToffee11]

I don’t think, given his lack of pace and physique, that he will ever be quite good enough for this league.

Agree, can't question his effort or desire. Just doesn't the physical attributes to be an attacking FB which is the requirement.

 

[BigDuncTributeBand]

Relying on a 32yr old who struggled last yr is NOT addressing anything. It's like making sure the deckchairs are lined up on the titanic as it sinks. He was never going to last the season and the fact you are listing centre halves as back up shows we didn't address it

People were outraged that we didn’t get a centre half last summer. The Holgate thread is full of posts around that time saying Holgate’s not good enough, never going to make it, had his chance etc. they look pretty silly now.

Personally, I would have been disappointed to see Kenny sold in the summer without seeing what player we were getting back from Schalke and giving him a chance to do a Holgate. Bit of succession planning from within must be part of the remit of the director of football strategy.

Kenny might just not be good enough, in which case having given him a chance, by all means sell him. Our midfield needed a complete overhaul there were certainly more pressing areas we needed to address in the summer.

They addressed the areas of he team I really wanted them to and was okay with the club’s strategy for right back. It may well move higher up the list of priorities next year though.

 

[Carloblues]

People were outraged that we didn’t get a centre half last summer. The Holgate thread is full of posts around that time saying Holgate’s not good enough, never going to make it, had his chance etc. they look pretty silly now.

Personally, I would have been disappointed to see Kenny sold in the summer without seeing what player we were getting back from Schalke and giving him a chance to do a Holgate. Bit of succession planning from within must be part of the remit of the director of football strategy.

Kenny might just not be good enough, in which case having given him a chance, by all means sell him. Our midfield needed a complete overhaul there were certainly more pressing areas we needed to address in the summer.

They addressed the areas of he team I really wanted them to and was okay with the club’s strategy for right back. It may well move higher up the list of priorities next year though.

The big difference is Kenny has never once looked good enough for us, holgate has had spells in the team where he's look very capable ( even before last season ) so anyone who wrote of holgate before last season mustn't have really watched him play for Everton

 

[BlueToff]

Basically crap. I wonder what the krauts thought of him in their league?

He did well in Germany.

He played in a 3-4-3 and was positioned higher up the pitch so his lack of pace and physicality wasn't really an issue.

Defensively had some mares but Wagner is a crap defensive coach so it's no wonder.

He's just not going to cut it at PL level but he didn't really play badly yesterday.

 

[BigDuncTributeBand]

The big difference is Kenny has never once looked good enough for us, holgate has had spells in the team where he's look very capable ( even before last season ) so anyone who wrote of holgate before last season mustn't have really watched him play for Everton

I’d take the view that I saw similar in DCL, Kenny, Davies and Holgate. There were signs of promise from all and playing in a team that was completely dysfunctional with half arsed senior pros such as Schneiderlin wandering around. I certainly never saw enough from Kenny to make me think “he’s no chance, never going to be good enough” - on that basis I didn’t like to write him off.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I don’t think, given his lack of pace and physique, that he will ever be quite good enough for this league.

Basically crap. I wonder what the krauts thought of him in their league?

I don't see him developing a mind for football that compensates the lack of pace . Also, his crosses yesterday, were proper bad whoppers.

 

[Cameron Manning]

I’d take the view that I saw similar in DCL, Kenny, Davies and Holgate. There were signs of promise from all and playing in a team that was completely dysfunctional with half arsed senior pros such as Schneiderlin wandering around. I certainly never saw enough from Kenny to make me think “he’s no chance, never going to be good enough” - on that basis I didn’t like to write him off.

Jonjo didn’t have good game yesterday, who did apart from Olson and Dominic, in a team that had no clear plan in how they were playing, don’t think he got many balls he could run onto, they were played to his feet or just behind him, when he got a couple of passes in the second he put two good crosses in that had power behind them, not floated in. If he had stayed on the second goal might have been avoided. I’ll stick with him and see that he’ll player better in a team that wasn’t as dysfunction as the one selected yesterday.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

He did well in Germany.

He played in a 3-4-3 and was positioned higher up the pitch so his lack of pace and physicality wasn't really an issue.

Defensively had some mares but Wagner is a crap defensive coach so it's no wonder.

He's just not going to cut it at PL level but he didn't really play badly yesterday.

Yep. He and Niels were double teamed all day. Can’t really fault him

 

[Abraders]

To be fair, Unsworth can't exactly make them faster. Both Davies and Kenny look like well coached footballers to me, that's actually part of the problem I think. They've graduated from the academy as good footballers who have been given a good footballing education and taken on board everything they've been told. That's great for them and reflects really well on their coaches. I saw somebody saying a few pages ago that Kenny looks like he's doing all the right things, but he's just not good enough to actually pull them off. Unfortunately, the opposite is usually the case for the best prospects. If you look at Alexander Arnold for example, he doesn't look anything like as well coached as Kenny, he's just about a thousand times more naturally talented. Some players have got it and some players haven't, and unfortunately I don't think Kenny has.

Hard to disagree with any of that, but it does seem like the entire current crop of 'youngsters' do lack the cutting edge to be top players

 

[Abraders]

The big difference is Kenny has never once looked good enough for us, holgate has had spells in the team where he's look very capable ( even before last season ) so anyone who wrote of holgate before last season mustn't have really watched him play for Everton

Holgate was solid if unspectacular when played at right back originally too. It was evident he could play ball

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Holgate was solid if unspectacular when played at right back originally too. It was evident he could play ball

I remember Holgate playing right back against Stoke, their game plan was to just lob everything down Holgate's side, he got absolutely mauled that night, if I remember right he was 'rested' after that game. He's boss now though.

 

[DaChunk]

The most 1 footed RB in the league after Coleman.

 

[BarryThompson1]

Bell end .