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2017/18 Jonjoe Kenny

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Zatara said:
What type of player do you think would suit?
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A good one mate, but joking aside the easy answer would be a pienaar type, failing that anyone with pace and a brain would suit also, problem is you need a wide player who the opposition are a bit scared of to get the best, otherwise you end up with the fullback being double teamed both when attacking and defending.
 
larrygobfiend said:
Crossing and his defensive heading at the back post ;)

Good lad!
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As @jceverton has said earlier a whole lot of us have been following his progress from about 17 , some earlier. The first thing I noticed when he was the England U17s full back was his ability in the air for someone comparatively small. He was winnning challenges from throw ins , free kicks etc . In theEngland and our youth teams he’s always shown an ability to get forward and cross if he’s got the opportunity.

He’s always had a wee bit of everything in his game, but for many he doesn’t look like the physical specimen people demand of the modern full back e.g some believe the RS’s Trent-Arnold is a better young full back , and he looks better physically and is probably faster. What Jonjoe is learning to do at PL level is to limit his weaknesses e.g. last night he caught and tackled an attacker when you thought they’d sped past him, but his positioning and speed off the mark allowed him to do so.

He’s still got more developing to do and you have to believe he’ll get better with experience and is not the finished article yet. What really pees me off are the lazy meffs who sarcastically quote “ Caca” whenever he gets any praise. The only people who mention Caca are people who either have never watched him properly or who don’t have the football knowledge and understanding to compose a paragraph on what his weaknesses are , so resort to cheep sarcasm.

We don’t have a great recent history of getting young players who have looked good in the PL at full back to kick on - Browning, Garbutt, Galloway spring to mind so there is always a need for caution . Big Sam has recognised his qualities and I’m sure will help him develop further. At 20 he’ll undoubtedly hit a rocky patch at sometime, have the odd bad game or two , but in the next two years irrespective of how well Seamus plays on his comeback we’ll have a player at 22 who could hold down the position for a long long time.
 
blueloon said:
As @jceverton has said earlier a whole lot of us have been following his progress from about 17 , some earlier. The first thing I noticed when he was the England U17s full back was his ability in the air for someone comparatively small. He was winnning challenges from throw ins , free kicks etc . In theEngland and our youth teams he’s always shown an ability to get forward and cross if he’s got the opportunity.

He’s always had a wee bit of everything in his game, but for many he doesn’t look like the physical specimen people demand of the modern full back e.g some believe the RS’s Trent-Arnold is a better young full back , and he looks better physically and is probably faster. What Jonjoe is learning to do at PL level is to limit his weaknesses e.g. last night he caught and tackled an attacker when you thought they’d sped past him, but his positioning and speed off the mark allowed him to do so.

He’s still got more developing to do and you have to believe he’ll get better with experience and is not the finished article yet. What really pees me off are the lazy meffs who sarcastically quote “ Caca” whenever he gets any praise. The only people who mention Caca are people who either have never watched him properly or who don’t have the football knowledge and understanding to compose a paragraph on what his weaknesses are , so resort to cheep sarcasm.

We don’t have a great recent history of getting young players who have looked good in the PL at full back to kick on - Browning, Garbutt, Galloway spring to mind so there is always a need for caution . Big Sam has recognised his qualities and I’m sure will help him develop further. At 20 he’ll undoubtedly hit a rocky patch at sometime, have the odd bad game or two , but in the next two years irrespective of how well Seamus plays on his comeback we’ll have a player at 22 who could hold down the position for a long long time.
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In the under 17 euros, the three stand out players by a mile for us, where him, Roberts and Gomez, all three look to be progressing through to make it as well, the rs got lucky on getting that lad tbh, but Kenny will go on to be the best of the lot.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
How about a quality left footer who knows Kenny's game well. Somebody with great vision and the ability to deliver a quality telling pass. A dead ball specialist who can chip in with frequent spectacular goals out of nowhere. Now where could we find a player like that?
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Needs to work on the defensive side of his game first; no passengers in this XI.
 

Barnfred 55 said:
How about a quality left footer who knows Kenny's game well. Somebody with great vision and the ability to deliver a quality telling pass. A dead ball specialist who can chip in with frequent spectacular goals out of nowhere. Now where could we find a player like that?
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haha! Think he will end up on the right though?
 
bluestevon said:
A good one mate, but joking aside the easy answer would be a pienaar type, failing that anyone with pace and a brain would suit also, problem is you need a wide player who the opposition are a bit scared of to get the best, otherwise you end up with the fullback being double teamed both when attacking and defending.
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@Barnfred 55 is suggesting Dowell...id rather it not be Lennon (no threat) or Bolasie (useless).

Id like to see us look long term and set up as a loose 4231.

Kenny right back then a centre midfielder as his 'link' and a right midfielder/winger in front.

I think we have the u21 players to do it and just need to sprinkle some top quality around the squad and develop it.

Not unreasonable I think to see Baningime/Davies in one slot ahead of Kenny + Lookman/Dowell on the touchline.
 
bluestevon said:
In the under 17 euros, the three stand out players by a mile for us, where him, Roberts and Gomez, all three look to be progressing through to make it as well, the rs got lucky on getting that lad tbh, but Kenny will go on to be the best of the lot.
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Wouldn't say they were 'lucky', I wanted him back then...

Though I thought he looked dreadful in a couple of games this season...he's showing we should have gone for him now.

People saying weve got 'enough' young players...its nonsense....we need some stars and then the potential stars to learn from them.

If Kenny and Holgate alone come good then that's half our defence....but we still need cover and having kids as cover is 'free' giving us more money to sign the odd big names.

I think In 2 seasons time, were going to be looking back and seeing this as the start of something special.
 

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