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2018/19 Jordan Pickford

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They did but that was only after it was clear he wanted to leave and they got maximum fee. He was their last big sale and since Potch came in they have progressed year on year with a different strategy.

They have progressed because they have managed to develop young stars and making good buys like Eriksen and Son among others.

Sure they made some mistakes with the Bale money...but Eriksen is an absolutely ace player.
 
They did but that was only after it was clear he wanted to leave and they got maximum fee. He was their last big sale and since Potch came in they have progressed year on year with a different strategy.
For me and it pains me to say this but Liverpool have the best strategy now on selling there best players, there now selling when they wont be missed, like Coutinho, if Firmino goes he wont be missed as much, long way away from when they sold Suarez and got Ricky Lambert. Spurs have got it sorted now, i just hope Marcel can do the same with us
 
They bought Sissoko and Jannsen though..
Both utter gash and cost about £50m.
Just sayin like.


Yes I meant when Poch arrived although I agree a couple of the Bale buys were good (Erikson most notably)mostly they were crap. What they did was weed out the chaff in a bloated squad, develop young players (Kane, Rose et al) either in-house or through good scouting (Dier, Ali, Son, Sanchez)hold onto their best players and add some proven quality in positions that fit their system(Loris, Dembele, Vertongen amongst others) They have made some mistakes along that path but they have actually progressed in the last three seasons, unlike much of the rest of the PL years for Spurs where they had to sell their best players and often wasted it. I think we need a similar shrewd strategy.
 
They have progressed because they have managed to develop young stars and making good buys like Eriksen and Son among others.

Sure they made some mistakes with the Bale money...but Eriksen is an absolutely ace player.

Exactly the point I wanted to make. I think part of their turning point(as well as development and good recruitment in the whole) is they now keep players they want to keep hence why I mention Pickford we must keep him for at least the next few seasons anyway.
 
Exactly the point I wanted to make. I think part of their turning point is they now keep players they want to keep hence why I mention Pickford we must keep him for at least the next few seasons anyway.

For me their turning point was Kane becoming one of the best strikers in the league and Dele making the jump from MK Dons and immediately contributing.

I guess DCL, Lookman, and maybe Holgate could make the jump. I am not convinced as of now.
 

Yes of course and some of that was luck Kane got a run in the EL because of Sherwood and didn't look back after numerous poor loans. And Ali was good scouting and he hit the ground running into their system. But still the point remains they stopped selling their better players when they didn't want to after Bale. Although good recruitment, coaching and trusting in young players are clearly the main reasons they have progressed to where we would love to be. Yes I am unsure any of those will reach those levels but with a good coach they can progress and our new DOF has to find players to fit Silva's ethos and ideology. Selling Pickford now would be premature and send out the wrong messages for me. We all know he will move on one day I just hope it's not soon and we can build something first.
 
Yes of course and some of that was luck Kane got a run in the EL because of Sherwood and didn't look back after numerous poor loans. And Ali was good scouting. But still the point remains they stopped selling their better players when they didn't want to after Bale. Although good recruitment coaching and trusting in young players are clearly the main reasons they have progressed to where we would love to be. Yes I am unsure any of those will reach those levels but with a good coach they can progress and our new DOF has to find players to fit Silva's ethos and ideology.

We didn't sell Stones at a time when it appeared that we were progressing. We have now sold the the young spine of that team because we didn't progress but rather regressed and they were ambitious enough to want to move on.

I don't see us in that same position today.
 
No we aren't progressing currently because of bad management, my point is what it takes to progress I don't believe it's selling your better players without it being at a time of your choosing. Of course you can't always control players ambitions Stones wanted out so did Barkley(although funnily enough neither left at the time they wanted to) but I don't think you ever progress if you sell your better players at the first opportunity so it's a vicious circle. Of course the position we are in there will always be sales to offset purchases but our mistake with selling Lukaku was how we spent the money. It was clear he had wanted out for over a season the planning was terrible we didn't buy a single striker who could play the lone forwards role until Tosun that was negligence. Arguably you needed a couple to even come close to his scoring totals.
 
No we aren't progressing currently because of bad management, my point is what it takes to progress I don't believe it's selling your better players without it being at a time of your choosing. Of course you can't always control players ambitions Stones wanted out so did Barkley(although funnily enough neither left at the time they wanted to) but I don't think you ever progress if you sell your better players at the first opportunity so it's a vicious circle. Of course the position we are in there will always be sales to offset purchases but our mistake with selling Lukaku was how we spent the money. It was clear he had wanted out for over a season the planning was terrible.

It's only a vicious cycle if you reinvest poorly. Which is what we have done in my opinion.
 
No we aren't progressing currently because of bad management, my point is what it takes to progress I don't believe it's selling your better players without it being at a time of your choosing. Of course you can't always control players ambitions Stones wanted out so did Barkley(although funnily enough neither left at the time they wanted to) but I don't think you ever progress if you sell your better players at the first opportunity so it's a vicious circle. Of course the position we are in there will always be sales to offset purchases but our mistake with selling Lukaku was how we spent the money. It was clear he had wanted out for over a season the planning was terrible we didn't buy a single striker who could play the lone forwards role until Tosun that was negligence. Arguably you needed a couple to even come close to his scoring totals.
We could still have Stones, Lukaku and spent Moshiris money then ?
But no, Kenwright kept this new billionaire takeover to himself.
 

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Yes of course and some of that was luck Kane got a run in the EL because of Sherwood and didn't look back after numerous poor loans. And Ali was good scouting and he hit the ground running into their system. But still the point remains they stopped selling their better players when they didn't want to after Bale. Although good recruitment, coaching and trusting in young players are clearly the main reasons they have progressed to where we would love to be. Yes I am unsure any of those will reach those levels but with a good coach they can progress and our new DOF has to find players to fit Silva's ethos and ideology. Selling Pickford now would be premature and send out the wrong messages for me. We all know he will move on one day I just hope it's not soon and we can build something first.
Do we?

I honestly haven't seen anything from him to suggest that it's a given that he'll be an absolute superstar and bound to want to move on. Certainly not in the same way that Rooney, Lukaku and Stones all looked destined to be competing for trophies. Obviously at the moment his stock is very high because he's had a couple of excellent games, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was interest right now, but he'll have to keep it up for a lot longer before I think he's anywhere near too good for us.
 

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