2019/20 Jordan Pickford

[Lelouch]

He's very low on the list of positions we need to replace sadly but he's been pretty garbage this season.

 

[Cool_Blue]

He's very low on the list of positions we need to replace sadly but he's been pretty garbage this season.

Agree. My post, however, was replied to with “Pickford hasn't had a single 'howler' all season”. So we have disagreements on JP, nothing wrong with that. I just think he’s not imposing enough to be a top top goalie in the Premier League, that’s not his fault. But, he’s like a cat on a hot tin roof half the time, and that’s unsettling for defenders in front of him.

 

[MikeH72]

Pickford hasn't had a single 'howler' all season.

The state of this board is incredible. Apparently every single goal should have been stopped.

Perreya absolutely leathers it into the top corner fron about 10 yards out and you get weirdod saying he 'should have done better'

It's just so strange.

It wasn’t leathered and it certainly wasn’t in the “top corner”.

 

[Lelouch]

Pickford hasn't had a single 'howler' all season.

The state of this board is incredible. Apparently every single goal should have been stopped.

Perreya absolutely leathers it into the top corner fron about 10 yards out and you get weirdod saying he 'should have done better'

It's just so strange.

First goal, Tell me how that isn't a howler.

 

[Lanolin]

The problem is we couldn’t afford to buy a new keeper (especially given the other areas of the team that need signings) unless we sold Pickford for a lot more than we bought him for. If a top club is willing to pay upwards of 40 mill for him then w rube to ask why we are selling him. If there’s no takers, then I doubt we can afford to dispense with a 30 mill goalkeeper and hope to buy another one in. He’s nowhere near as bad as some people are making out.

I'm not saying he's been awful, but I honestly don't think he's performed anything like a £30m goalkeeper. People are saying 'oh he hasn't made many howlers'; he hasn't made many saves either. He's just been a kind of functional, distinctly average, goalkeeper, no better no worse. I find it hard to believe that we'd be worse off with the likes of Dubravka, Guaita, Heaton or Pope in there than Pickford. None of them cost anything like £30m. My opinion is that it would be possible to sell him and replace him for a fraction of the price, without getting any worse.

 

[blueblue]

I like Pickford, but i have been critical of him this season. I think if you sign someone for £30m as a "promising gk" you expect to see an improvement in them 3-4yrs down the line, unsure of whether we've seen that from him - however, its not black and white and other things need to be taken into consideration.

BUT - if someone offered us £30+ in the Summer, basically the chance to get our money back, would you take it?

60m maybe.
That is the level he would be at now.

Evertonians love to have somebody to blame and Pickford, somewhat unusually, seems to have been nominated as the scapegoat at present.
Just because we dot not recognise what we have doesn't mean that others don't.

 

[Cameron Manning]

Correct - short memories and all that. I honestly believe he's a confidence player, and as collective confidence amongst the current group of players grows under Ancelotti, Pickford's performances will improve.

On his day there's not many better goalkeepers in the world.

My memory of him goes back to when he first, a good shot stopper even if he parried some ot the saves back into the penalty area for the oncoming forward to slot home, stuck on his line too often, especially for corners, free kicks and centres, fifty/ fifty with his goal kicks, don’t see any improvement with his game since he came. To be honest I didn’t fault him for the two goals on Saturday but if he goes it wouldn’t bother me, doubt if any top club would be interested in signing him, so let’s hope he starts learning under Ancelotti and his coaches.

 

[Lelouch]

60m maybe.
That is the level he would be at now.

Evertonians love to have somebody to blame and Pickford, somewhat unusually, seems to have been nominated as the scapegoat at present.
Just because we dot not recognise what we have doesn't mean that others don't.

calling him a scapegoat? really man, He's been pretty poor this season.
2 shots on target for Watford 2 goals.
3 shots on target for Newcastle 2 goals.
He's been grim and he's worth 30m at best.

 

[Billysgingham.]

The Fulham keeper, Rodak, has been brilliant all season. He's Slovakian I think. A big lad with fantastic positioning and reflexes. Worth at least a role as Pickford's understudy, although in my opinion he is far better.

I've not seen him mate so cant comment, but I will take your word. But my point is there is definitely good keepers out there.

 

[blueblue]

calling him a scapegoat? really man, He's been pretty poor this season.
2 shots on target for Watford 2 goals.
3 shots on target for Newcastle 2 goals.
He's been grim and he's worth 30m at best.

Are you blaming him for both goals against Watford ?
He has been playing behind a team that up to Christmas was truly awful.
The team has improved since the arrival of CA but we are still playing with what is a makeshift centre midfield.
I don't think either goal against Watford was his fault. I think you need to look at the defence in both cases and the mistake by Delph in particular for the first. Pickford gambled that the player was going to go low and he spread himself as much as he could but the ball went high, I can't see the blame there.

 

[Lelouch]

Are you blaming him for both goals against Watford ?
He has been playing behind a team that up to Christmas was truly awful.
The team has improved since the arrival of CA but we are still playing with what is a makeshift centre midfield.
I don't think either goal against Watford was his fault. I think you need to look at the defence in both cases and the mistake by Delph in particular for the first. Pickford gambled that the player was going to go low and he spread himself as much as he could but the ball went high, I can't see the blame there.

Not the second one but I need to see the first one from different angles from first look it looks pretty bad on but it's not just Watford or Newcastle goals you could make a strong case he should be doing better for a lot more goals, He's been one of the weakest players so far this season performance wise.

 

[Toffeelover]

Chelsea dropped kepa the most expensive keeper in the world

What’s our excuse

He would throw a tantrum

 

[Gilbert..]

60m maybe.
That is the level he would be at now.

Evertonians love to have somebody to blame and Pickford, somewhat unusually, seems to have been nominated as the scapegoat at present.
Just because we dot not recognise what we have doesn't mean that others don't.

The only club that would pay 60m is us if he was somewhere else.
Nobody is giving us 60m. Nobody.

 

[toffee-L]

I'm not saying he's been awful, but I honestly don't think he's performed anything like a £30m goalkeeper. People are saying 'oh he hasn't made many howlers'; he hasn't made many saves either. He's just been a kind of functional, distinctly average, goalkeeper, no better no worse. I find it hard to believe that we'd be worse off with the likes of Dubravka, Guaita, Heaton or Pope in there than Pickford. None of them cost anything like £30m. My opinion is that it would be possible to sell him and replace him for a fraction of the price, without getting any worse.

That may well be true but due to the FFP bind we're in right now, we have to make as much profit as we can on players we sell. The value of too many players we have signed recently has just fallen off a cliff unfortunately and we are getting no returns on our investment.

The only way the club will replace Pickford is if a buyer comes in and offers us more than what we paid for him and it just isn't going to happen.

Replacing Pickford is also going to be pretty low down on the club's list of priorities come the summer as well. A centre midfielder (maybe even 2), a right winger, a centre back if we replace Michael Keane (who is a bigger problem than Pickford), a right back, maybe another striker, a back up left back... There's just no budget for a new goalkeeper, especially if we can't shift the current one for a profit.

 

[Wolf8312]

No fault at his door for Saturday apart from being the only player not to make the huddle when Theo scored

To be fair that was the right call! He was probably thinking he needed to be ready and concentrating for any potential incoming equalizer, not knackering himself out by sprinting up and down the pitch, and making himself look like a berk for going utterly nuts over a goal that history had to have taught him, would very likely be cancelled out about 5 seconds later!
I always feel there is something slightly undignified about goalkeepers sprinting up to celebrate goals with outfield players anyway unless the game has finished!

Case in point that RS muppet who did it a few weeks ago because he happened to get an assist! Oh how I preyed for VAR to intervene but alas...