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2019/20 Jordan Pickford

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He’s been poor but there are not many GKs that don’t make mistakes, the standard of keepers in the league is actually very bad.

We have other issues that need sorting before replacing Pickford.
I keep hearing this, but i don't think that is true at all. A trusted goalkeeper improves the not just the defense, if he constantly adding doubt it hurts all areas of the pitch
 
Biggest worry for me, was not the goal, as that was a period in which the whole team seemed to be in a fluster and I kind of hold them all equally responsible!

But that moment (Zaha pen shout) when he came out and grabbed the ball. Watching it back, I could have sworn he actually forgot that he even had the ball, and somehow stood up without it! He seems to go into moments where he doesn't really know what's happening, and I think its probably not an ability problem, but a lack of composure under what is to be fair, immense pressure. I think he's worrying too much about making mistakes and its becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy, and/or vicious circle.

I think he needs to find someway of remaining calm and not worrying. Meditation or something... although him going into a trance is all we need!

I think we need to get behind him while we have him though, cause getting on his back, what with how temperamental and erratic under pressure he is, isn't going to help anyone, least of all us!

It's also not just a Pickford who panics problem, but the whole teams. I could feel the panic in that team, during that 15 minute spell in the second half, long before it got anywhere near Pickford. Same with the Newcastle game, again his not realizing where he was (behind the goal line doh), but it was really a collective group spaz out, and I'm not sure Pickford should take all the blame.

The results have been good recently, but I'm still seeing signs of a lot of the problems we had under Silva, so I'm not celebrating just yet. Much better, I know, but we've also had a lot more luck recently (Newcastle being an exception) and won games that could have gone either way.

I'm hoping once the team itself becomes calmer and more resilient, Pickford will as well. Though I do have doubts myself as well...
 
Biggest worry for me, was not the goal, as that was a period in which the whole team seemed to be in a fluster and I kind of hold them all equally responsible!

But that moment (Zaha pen shout) when he came out and grabbed the ball. Watching it back, I could have sworn he actually forgot that he even had the ball, and somehow stood up without it! He seems to go into moments where he doesn't really know what's happening, and I think its probably not an ability problem, but a lack of composure under what is to be fair, immense pressure. I think he's worrying too much about making mistakes and its becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy, and/or vicious circle.

I think he needs to find someway of remaining calm and not worrying. Meditation or something... although him going into a trance is all we need!

I think we need to get behind him while we have him though, cause getting on his back, what with how temperamental and erratic under pressure he is, isn't going to help anyone, least of all us!

It's also not just a Pickford who panics problem, but the whole teams. I could feel the panic in that team, during that 15 minute spell in the second half, long before it got anywhere near Pickford. Same with the Newcastle game, again his not realizing where he was (behind the goal line doh), but it was really a collective group spaz out, and I'm not sure Pickford should take all the blame.

The results have been good recently, but I'm still seeing signs of a lot of the problems we had under Silva, so I'm not celebrating just yet. Much better, I know, but we've also had a lot more luck recently (Newcastle being an exception) and won games that could have gone either way.

I'm hoping once the team itself becomes calmer and more resilient, Pickford will as well. Though I do have doubts myself as well...

He had the ball then in the challenge with Zaha it was knocked out of his hands just before he got up Looked a lot worse than it was.
 

I keep hearing this, but i don't think that is true at all. A trusted goalkeeper improves the not just the defense, if he constantly adding doubt it hurts all areas of the pitch

We’re averaging 1 goal per game conceded since Silva was sacked, while that isn’t exactly amazing it’s better than where we were. We are also averaging more goals, but we are heavily reliant on DCL and Ricky.

If we replaced Pickford tomorrow we would still concede a very similar amount of goals, if we lost Ricky or DCL to injury we would score a lot less goals. I’d much prefer us to address the other end of the pitch first before replacing the GK.

I do see why people want us to get a new GK though, I am just not sure that there are many that we could get in that would make us much stronger; it would eat a lot of the transfer budget no matter who we got in as well.
 
Jordan just needs to shut up, get his head down and work on his game. Only his performances will determine his career both here and with England and the likes of G Neville and D Murphy and the noise they make are irrelevant in how his career path will be moving forward. I think the next three months though are big for him to this end.
 
Without that, the haters would have nothing to hate.

yes it was pathetic for a man of his undoubted quality. In fairness it was Benteke, so he probably thought the corner flag was in more danger :rolleyes:

I don't think he helps himself though, he loses concentration at the most important times. If his studs got caught then that's fair enough but the howlers are getting more frequent or at least it seems that way. I want him to sort his head out because it will save us a fortune.
 
If actual truth be told, the howler on Saturday was the first actual howler leading to a goal I can recall in a long time.

Catching the ball while Standing 2 foot behind the line isn't a howler?

I guess it depends on your definition of howler. But this is at best, a rudimentary misunderstanding of the basic rules of football.

Noone denies he has the ability to make the odd decent save, but it's all for nothing if you keep getting the basics wrong and it undermines the good work the team does.

Goals at the highest level are valuable, that's why teams pay massive amounts of money for the best players. But if you are just going to gift the opposition goals they haven't earned, regularly, than something has to change, whether that's him or us.
 

Catching the ball while Standing 2 foot behind the line isn't a howler?

I guess it depends on your definition of howler. But this is at best, a rudimentary misunderstanding of the basic rules of football.

Noone denies he has the ability to make the odd decent save, but it's all for nothing if you keep getting the basics wrong and it undermines the good work the team does.

Goals at the highest level are valuable, that's why teams pay massive amounts of money for the best players. But if you are just going to gift the opposition goals they haven't earned, regularly, than something has to change, whether that's him or us.
Absolutely, but I can only think of 2 or 3 he has “gifted”.
 
We are great as a fan base at turning on our own players, proper horrible lot....and don’t give me the “he is not above criticism”. Saying he made a mistake is fine....but as soon as players are out of form they are “not good enough”, none of you make any mistakes in life, or at work!?!

Sad really.

Yep, "fans" sating everyone of our players apart from Richie was not good enough last december. I kept trying to explain that a mixture of form, bad management and lack of confidence was the issue, players do not become crap in general, least of all 15 of them at the same time.
And now we find ourselves second in the form league...
 

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