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2019/20 Jordan Pickford

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How people can still say hes not been a problem this year is beyond me.

The variations of his errors have been the worst bit too. Theres no real obvious problem. Just lots of errors in all aspects. Dropped crosses, poor positioning, palming it into the 6 yard box, fumbling it through his hands, bad decisions to leave his line, poor kicking etc.

Hes not learning. Hes getting worse. And hes much better than this. Such a frustrating player.

Knuckle down and grow up lad.
 
I think in a lot of ways he's now paying the penalty for mistakes he's made much earlier on. His antics against Newcastle last season where absolutely pathetic. Especially after what had happened a couple of months earlier in the derby, they hinted at someone who's head was all over the place and lacks the mental aptitude to go to the very top.

In truth I think he hasn't been that bad this season. There's been a lot of underhwelming games but one or 2 good ones aswell. In some ways he probably struggles with the whoscored rankings as they rate most saves equally in their ranking and his big strength is he makes a lot of unusual saves. The one he made at 2-1 was outstanding. So there has to be some nuance to the discussion.

My own take on him? I wasn't massively impressed with him in his first season and I think he's not got any better. I think we bought a raw, young but very talented goalkeeper. I don't think we see enough moments of brilliance and yet the mistakes keep coming. Every 4 or 5 games there is another mistake. I don't think his first season he was anything special, but he as just better than the rest of the team.

I think he was a better goalkeeper at Sunderland. Whats very telling is that by all accounts him and Ederson were the final 2 City looked at. While Emerson was ahead there wasn't a lot in it, but Ederson is now miles ahead of him. Stats aren't everything, but his first season at Sunderland he made 135 saves to 50 goals conceded (so around 2.7 saves per shot (sps)). His first season with us that was 121 saves for 58 goals (2.1 sps), last season it was 94 saves for 46 goals (2.04 sps) and this season less still making 63 saves for 38 shots faced (1.66 sps).

If he had the same ratio as the lad we bought from Sunderland we'd have conceded just 23 goals. And we obviously signed him hoping he'd kick on from that point.

So yes. It's getting to potentially make or break for me. He has some wonderful abilities but like the rest of the team it has to be applied better.
 
It's a pity as I feel there is a good keeper in there. But the last thing you want as a defender is an unreliable keeper. And that's what he is now. His decision making let's him down.and without doubt he is the main culprit at starting the "nervous time"in our team. Bad close range kickouts usually start it at times when he needs to send it as long as he can.
 

ford_uk said:
App Leicester have been making a few enquires about a Turkish keeper called Ugurcan Cakir.
Admittedly I've never heard of him, but just going off how good their recruitment has been over the past few years we should make a move.
If Pickford can't be or won't be moved on, he needs some genuine good competition.
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Uğurcan Çakır - Player profile 24/25

Uğurcan Çakır, 28, from Türkiye ➤ Trabzonspor, since 2014 ➤ Goalkeeper ➤ Market value: €8.00m ➤ * Apr 5, 1996 in Antalya, Türkiye
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A very experienced GK
Has conceded as many goals as games he has played
 
Brisan123 said:
Being coached to do them and doing them repetitively makes them intuitive
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Not joking here, how complicated can it be? Judging if you can reach a ball surely does not need to be coached. Improving your reactions I can understand, it is training. Making shall I come for this ball or not decisions...cant understand how that needs to be learned and if it does, how long can it take?
 

diggerdestroyer said:
It's a pity as I feel there is a good keeper in there. But the last thing you want as a defender is an unreliable keeper. And that's what he is now. His decision making let's him down.and without doubt he is the main culprit at starting the "nervous time"in our team. Bad close range kickouts usually start it at times when he needs to send it as long as he can.
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That's the frustrating part. We can all clearly see he has talent but the mental lapses in his game have become all too frequent. It's hard to tell exactly what the issue is, but at times it seems like his concentration isn't the best. As if he's not concentrating on actually thinking through what he's doing.
 
bol-uk said:
I do not agree at all.
Any goal he lets in, our fans are now so obsessed, "he should have got that" is the standard response. There have been worldies (RS kids) and bottom corner efforts and they still say it was his fault.

If actual truth be told, the howler on Saturday was the first actual howlerleading to a goal I can recall in a long time.

It really feels like,. surprise surprise., evertonians are so desperate to hate their own player that they blame him for everything even when it clearly was not his fault.

He is doomed here I fear, too many looking on waiting for ANY glimmer of a chance to have a go.
I am not saying he is faultless, or not to blame but, people need to be fair, his antics are annoying and not particularly condusive to good goalkeeping but we really haveblown it out of proportion.
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bol-uk said:
I do not agree at all.
Any goal he lets in, our fans are now so obsessed, "he should have got that" is the standard response. There have been worldies (RS kids) and bottom corner efforts and they still say it was his fault.

If actual truth be told, the howler on Saturday was the first actual howlerleading to a goal I can recall in a long time.

It really feels like,. surprise surprise., evertonians are so desperate to hate their own player that they blame him for everything even when it clearly was not his fault.

He is doomed here I fear, too many looking on waiting for ANY glimmer of a chance to have a go.
I am not saying he is faultless, or not to blame but, people need to be fair, his antics are annoying and not particularly condusive to good goalkeeping but we really haveblown it out of proportion.
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Did you watch the Toon game?
 
Rob17896 said:
Not joking here, how complicated can it be? Judging if you can reach a ball surely does not need to be coached. Improving your reactions I can understand, it is training. Making shall I come for this ball or not decisions...cant understand how that needs to be learned and if it does, how long can it take?
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Years of continuous coaching until it becomes second nature and you do it without thinking.
its the same for all basic skills that footballers have.
You think Digne just takes free kicks and does not and did not practice them for hours growing up
 
TrixyStevens said:
It’s not just one type of error with Pickford. He is a calamity waiting to happen in every game. A woeful goalkeeper.
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He's not woeful. But there is to much of joe hart about him. Me personaly i just like a decent calm keeper who does the job no fuss. That spreads to defenders. Cant stand all the fist pumping i hope the camera caught my dive nonsense. Reminds me to much of the excitable kid you see in any park with jumpers down for posts on 5 cans of fizzy pop, over exaggerating dives showing off.
Needs to calm down.
 
catcherintherye said:
I think in a lot of ways he's now paying the penalty for mistakes he's made much earlier on. His antics against Newcastle last season where absolutely pathetic. Especially after what had happened a couple of months earlier in the derby, they hinted at someone who's head was all over the place and lacks the mental aptitude to go to the very top.

In truth I think he hasn't been that bad this season. There's been a lot of underhwelming games but one or 2 good ones aswell. In some ways he probably struggles with the whoscored rankings as they rate most saves equally in their ranking and his big strength is he makes a lot of unusual saves. The one he made at 2-1 was outstanding. So there has to be some nuance to the discussion.

My own take on him? I wasn't massively impressed with him in his first season and I think he's not got any better. I think we bought a raw, young but very talented goalkeeper. I don't think we see enough moments of brilliance and yet the mistakes keep coming. Every 4 or 5 games there is another mistake. I don't think his first season he was anything special, but he as just better than the rest of the team.

I think he was a better goalkeeper at Sunderland. Whats very telling is that by all accounts him and Ederson were the final 2 City looked at. While Emerson was ahead there wasn't a lot in it, but Ederson is now miles ahead of him. Stats aren't everything, but his first season at Sunderland he made 135 saves to 50 goals conceded (so around 2.7 saves per shot (sps)). His first season with us that was 121 saves for 58 goals (2.1 sps), last season it was 94 saves for 46 goals (2.04 sps) and this season less still making 63 saves for 38 shots faced (1.66 sps).

If he had the same ratio as the lad we bought from Sunderland we'd have conceded just 23 goals. And we obviously signed him hoping he'd kick on from that point.

So yes. It's getting to potentially make or break for me. He has some wonderful abilities but like the rest of the team it has to be applied better.
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I knew he was overplaying to the cameras, making 63 saves when facing only 38 shots lol
 

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