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2020/21 Jordan Pickford

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badger5187 said:
I'd like to see Olson getting a run now. I hate the way Pickford dives when the ball is goin over or wide, really winds me up!!
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HAHAHA me too, The goal against west ham he dove even though the ball was goin ten yards wide it deflects straight to their man who reacts with a touch that goes 2 yards inside the post and half a yard away from JP just as he's getting up from his needless dive. Just one of his many flaws.
 
Socrates1882 said:
Not posted on here for a while .... but full disclosure, I’m a Burnley fan.

Now obviously that means two things :-

1. I’m biased towards Nick Pope.
2. I don’t watch huge amounts of Pickford.

I did watch your game last night and I was stunned at what I saw. He has a shocker for the goal, making three distinct bad decisions. No real need to go into that further.

The thing that surprised me though was just how edgy and chaotic everything Pickford did was. Pope, largely speaking, is a very calm keeper. When he comes for a ball everybody knows he’s going to catch it usually, you also know when he’s coming for a cross pretty much as soon as it leaves somebody’s foot. A lot of saves go straight down his throat because his positioning is solid and whilst he does make flashy saves a lot of the time he makes good block saves - as in he gets his position right and then just makes himself big.

Origi missed a one-on-one against him last week when he hit the bar and I’m convinced strikers aim for the top corner constantly against us because they know otherwise Pope is saving. He made two one-on-one saves from Watkins and Grealish last night just by being big.

I legitimately think for us he’s worth 12-15 points a season. He wouldn’t be for you because you don’t play the way we do, but he definitely wouldn’t cost you the 6/8 Pickford does.

Where Pope is calm Pickford is manic. Even last night I lost count of the times a Leicester play was slipped in on the angle and Pickford takes a couple of steps out to the ball before retreating and then making a diving save. Pope waits for the ball to come to him whereas Pickford is aggressive - too much so to my mind. He has good reactions and if he could get his feet right he’d have a extra second or two to react (I say “if”, I don’t think he will).

The goal you conceded, he doesn’t get his body behind it and it slips through his hands. This is basic stuff and not the first time he’s done it. Pope has better hands and routinely gets his body behind it - which we use to time waste and take the sting out of things. It calms everybody down and allows us to reset.

One last point - I saw somebody say Pope wouldn’t work as you couldn’t play out from the back. Steady on lads .... you’re not Pep’s Barcelona. Pope isn’t that bad with his feet and if your goalie is substantially getting involved with your build up play with his feet you’re doing something wrong.
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Very well said.
 

Just looked at some basic stats for him

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15th for clean sheets (3)
6th for goals conceded ( which is good as its only 20 )
14th for saves made ( always a tough stat as it could be he gets more protected so faces less shots )
4th for punches which I was surprised with
11th for high claims ( 10. Martinez of Villa is top woth 25)
12th for sweeper clearances (4. Pope was top with 18)
Hes 2nd for errors leading to goals with 2 which can't be right as it must be about 22.
 
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Very well said.
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Pope was 2nd to Pickford last season in shots let in from outside the box. Also his distribution is poor, he generally hoofs it, and whatever our friend from Burnley thinks of us, we do play out from the back, which can be the only possible reason Ancelotti plays Pickford over Olsen.
 
maccavennie said:
Just looked at some basic stats for him

Ranked

15th for clean sheets (3)
6th for goals conceded ( which is good as its only 20 )
14th for saves made ( always a tough stat as it could be he gets more protected so faces less shots )
4th for punches which I was surprised with
11th for high claims ( 10. Martinez of Villa is top woth 25)
12th for sweeper clearances (4. Pope was top with 18)
Hes 2nd for errors leading to goals with 2 which can't be right as it must be about 22.
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No it's true. Because our defence know he's a disaster area, they are alert to him making a mistake and ready to deal with it.
 
everton1953 said:
Plucking Silva and Romero out of thin air for £10m and pretending they would be better than our Picky who most of us wish to see the back of. Are they better than Olsen?
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What is this 'Picky' business, if you are trying to be funny then it is failing miserably. I am not the biggest fan of using players nicknames (although I do slip now and again) but this is just weird, even if it is in jest.

On topic, it is certainly time to give Olsen a few games in a row, rather than the 'rotation' previously.
 


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