stannyr
Player Valuation: £1m
24 for a keeper is very young. Rarely do they peak before 30
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24 for a keeper is very young. Rarely do they peak before 30
sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
No excuse
stannyr
Player Valuation: £1m
for what? keeping us in lots of games this season? he's not the most commanding granted but he's saved us more points than he's lost us
neil999
Player Valuation: £80m
Overly harsh criticism of all our players(but particularly younger players) seems to be fashionable on here atm for some weird reason....
Nah, 30 years ago maybe, not now.
Look at the keepers around the PL, I bet only a handful are in their 30s these days. De Gea is 27, Courtois is 25, Karius 24, Butland 25, Pope 25, Matt Ryan 25, Ederson 24. As I said, he's not old but the idea that he's a baby is ridiculous. He's a similar age to most other PL keepers and has around 200 senior games under his belt.
stannyr
Player Valuation: £1m
i've noticed! Goalie is certainly last on my list of positions that needs investment!
sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
That's questionable
mkrudden
Player Valuation: £40m
I don't think it's his age that should be in focus but his top flight experience.
Yes he'splayed 200 games but not even half of those have been in the PL.
The difference is clear- the quality he has to face in the lower leagues is markedly lower (both in terms of, say, quality of cross and quality of movement from the attackers).
He's learning on the job, no doubt. He made a very poor decision on Saturday but if he wasn't still capable of those errors he would have cost more than the £30m we paid.
Same for Ederson- he has made some errors this season like against Liverpool.
Rough with the smooth and all that. If he's making these same mistakes at the back end of next season with such regularity (the Burnley goal and the Stoke one are both indicative of him failing to be proactive) then there may be a most ingrained issue.
sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
nonsense, he's already the third most expensive goalkeeper in history. Its perfectly acceptable to be expecting such a player to be much more complete
Yeah and I should be clear that i'm in no way saying he's poor. I just find the idea that he's well on his way to being a keeper right out of the top drawer to be a bit bizarre. I don't know if it's his baby face or people just not realising that times have changed and the best keepers are no longer 33-37 but people seem to be under the impression he's really young and therefore bound to improve massively when in reality he's likely entering his peak years now.
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Hes great, only going to get better and these little mistakes hes making will become less and less.
Judge him properly, when he`s got a decent defence in front of him.
Even Buffon would struggle with what Pickfords had in front of him, for the majority of the season.
Even Buffon would struggle with what Pickfords had in front of him, for the majority of the season.
Put[put two billboards in the goalmouth pQUOTE="COYBL25, post: 6209681, member: 8087"]Judge him properly, when he`s got a decent defence in front of him.
Even Buffon would struggle with what Pickfords had in front of him, for the majority of the season.[/QUOTE]
Virtually the same defence as last season, to me he started great since this big Sams coach came in - he is glued to his line - last two games two samish mistakes and he flapped at a high ball - he has to get this correct this as early on he commanded his area under the old keeper coach Unsworth set up - Sam has changed things for the worse as he just looks like a shot stopper now to let 50 goals in if Robles had done that last season - the fume on here - in fact Robles commanded his area and kept ten clean sheets!
Even Buffon would struggle with what Pickfords had in front of him, for the majority of the season.[/QUOTE]
Virtually the same defence as last season, to me he started great since this big Sams coach came in - he is glued to his line - last two games two samish mistakes and he flapped at a high ball - he has to get this correct this as early on he commanded his area under the old keeper coach Unsworth set up - Sam has changed things for the worse as he just looks like a shot stopper now to let 50 goals in if Robles had done that last season - the fume on here - in fact Robles commanded his area and kept ten clean sheets!
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