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2017/18 Jordan Pickford

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Just needs to get some cajones and start clearing anything between him and the incoming ball out of the way.

The way keepers are protected he needs to be launching himself through strikers into any balls in the air and claiming the area more. The goal yesterday Chupo-Moting had already decided he didn't want the 50/50 in the air and had backed off, pickford decided he didn't want it either and hesitated which allowed them to nick it in
 
I really don’t know how you can call a young goalie with a lot of potential ordinary at all, he’s been a saving grace at time, so you’d prefer us to go back to Joel
 
Kever10 said:
I'm not saying Robles is amazing and Pickford Is crap, same way I dont say Martinez was amazing and Koeman was crap... OK, Koeman was crap, but you get the point. It's the balance that I'm interested in. Being able to see the good and the bad and applying some logic to the pros and cons.

In the case of Joel and Pickford, it is particularly striking.

Pickford, for me, has had an average 1st season for us. Yes he has made some good saves. But we paid £30m for him. That is the very least I would expect for that kind of money. But the flaws in his game are inexplicably excused by some on here who talk about the undoubted qualities he has, how its plain to see how he's going to be a top player. How his young age means he's going to make mistakes and he needs time and games to grow and learn, etc, etc.

Well, Joel was the same age as Pickford when we signed him, and for a fraction of the price. He has yet, in almost 5 years being here, had 1 full season in goal, unlike Pickford, who has played week in, week out from game one (bar the odd meaningless cup/European league game) and conceding 60+ goals in the process.

Another difference between Joel and Pickford, is how each and every error Joel has made, is still held against him, and his young age, lack of experience or fragile defence in front of him has not once been used as a reason to give him some slack and give him the time to develop.

All of this, despite the fact that Joel, when called upon in each of the last 3 seasons, has came into a struggling side and seen an instant and lasting defensive improvement. -That's 3 consecutive seasons, under 2 different managers, and replacing 2 different Goalkeepers in the process. But it's just a coincidence right?

Whenever I have tried to point this out, all I get is the same response, how he was at fault for a shot he didn't save in the Derby that bobbled through a crowded defence and didn't go in anyway.

Most of the criticism Joel gets is based on 3 factors that he has no control over: the manager who signed him and his questionable record in the transfer market, the fact that the Premier league team he played for before signing for us were relegated, and the fact he looks gormless. And yes, before you ask, I am still talking about Joel.

Joel should now be coming into his peak years as a Goalkeeper, and instead, is left to sit on the bench watching Pickford get all the chances he wishes he had had. He is probably going to leave on a free in the summer, and we are going to have to spend more money on a goalkeeper to sit on the bench in his place, and to be honest, at this point in time, I don't believe there's an awful lot between him and our current 1st choice. Maybe we could've spent that £30m on a Striker and a left back, or a centre half to make Joel look better.
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Joel is crap.
 

Abraders said:
Back to what another poster said though, this season it's because the defence is poor, last season robles did well because the defence was good. Simply isn't true, it's one rule for one and another rule for the other...

Pickford been directly at fault for 2-3 goals in the previous 2-3 games or so. Burnley & Stoke.

He'll be decent one day but on the whole he's been nothing the shout about this season.

The only time I feel calm with Pickford is when he's up against a penalty.
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Anyone who genuinely thinks the defence has been as solid as last season deserves to have their opinion on football immediately disregarded.
 
He has flattered to deceive on a couple of occasions this season so I fully understand why a good number of our fans are doubting his ability.
For my part, given goalkeepers have a longer learning curve than outfield players, I'm happy we've got him now as he will only get better. He can't but help learn from mistakes made by himself and those playing in front of him.
 

I think he is a promising keeper who has a reluctance to come off his line because of his ( relatively for a keeper ) small size.

Unless or until he can command his area teams will sniff blood and throw loads of crosses at him and we will struggle.
 
He needs to command his 6 yard box....
Corners he must come & challenge for the ball...
Practise his judgement coming out & narrowing angles...
Keep the saves simple, no need to dramatize the saves...

Keeper coach please note... Extended practice needed.
 

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