Kevin Mirallas

[Khalekan]

Lennon was shattered.

He may well have been.

Taking Lennon off wasn't the madness on display.

It was replacing him with Oumar.

Crazy decision in a game where we lead 2-0 and were looking comfortable despite Mirallas's idiocy leaving us a man short.

 

[Khalekan]

Yellow cards for dives are a lottery. Can't argue with it because it was a dive, but about 15% of dives recognised by refs are actually given the deserved yellow.

Second one was daft. Could see it coming a mile away. A real shame because he was good against Villa and started well today, but barring a change of manager I struggle to see a future for him now.

I agree with you.

Giving cards for diving should be done retrospectively as very few of them are blatant enough at first glance.

 

[Tree13]

Barry is a defensive midfielder, it's a hazard of the job. Mirallas is a sullen, ego-driven forward, who was given the chance that a confusing amount of people on here wanted him to get, and he responds by getting two of the stupidest yellow cards in the 34th minute.

And it's still Martinez' fault.

Find me one person on here who has blamed Martinez for Mirallas getting either of those yellow cards yesterday. Please.

Mirallas earned his opportunity with his display against Villa. He spurned the opportunity by getting himself sent off with a stupid, needless tackle while already on a yellow. No-one's defending his performance yesterday. Equally, he was not the SOLE reason we lost. Anyone refusing to ask any questions of Martinez yesterday, choosing instead to simply parrot "Mirallas got sent off, Mirallas got sent off", is being very, very silly.

 

[TyphooToffee]

I'm being entirely consistent through a blizzard of nonsense that meets every reversal of this nature. You have to have an overview of the manager and not react to every 90 minute like it's a trial he has to be found innocent of. It's unfair 'analysis', which is why it's all stuff that is never registered by the people at the club who make hiring and firing decisions. The man has a contract to roll out his vision. If he gets it wrong or is not a success then he pays for it. So how about there's some advocacy of that instead of a lynch mob after his players fail to stand up like men in the final minutes of a game?

You talk about credibility, I think that's arguing your case and viewpoint clearly and not deviating for every setback. Lack of credibility on this managerial question s not mine. I look at others and see them shift ground week in week out. That's lacking in credibility. But, of course, I'll get called a WUM because I wont give ground on my support and loyalty to a manager I regard as a good one.

I wish you'd stop making so much sense, dave!

 

[Aberblue]

I'm being entirely consistent through a blizzard of nonsense that meets every reversal of this nature. You have to have an overview of the manager and not react to every 90 minute like it's a trial he has to be found innocent of. It's unfair 'analysis', which is why it's all stuff that is never registered by the people at the club who make hiring and firing decisions. The man has a contract to roll out his vision. If he gets it wrong or is not a success then he pays for it. So how about there's some advocacy of that instead of a lynch mob after his players fail to stand up like men in the final minutes of a game?

You talk about credibility, I think that's arguing your case and viewpoint clearly and not deviating for every setback. Lack of credibility on this managerial question s not mine. I look at others and see them shift ground week in week out. That's lacking in credibility. But, of course, I'll get called a WUM because I wont give ground on my support and loyalty to a manager I regard as a good one.

I say again, though; it's NOT about one game.

Every time we are defeated, excuses are trotted out: the ref had a nightmare, defenders made howlers, we were unlucky, the atmosphere at Goodison was dreadful, and so on.

If that happened once or twice a season, or even a few times a season, you could understand it. But this happens all the time, or at least most of the time, particularly at home.

Watford - "We hadn't got into our stride"
Man City - "they're a good team and Rom had a goal wrongly disallowed"
Liverpool - "just one of those days"
Man U - "we were all in shock at HK's passing"
Palace - "We hit the post three times"
Leicester - "We had two penalties against us, we won't make those mistakes again"
Stoke - "a wonder goal and a wrongly awarded penalty"
Swansea - "We battered them but we were unlucky & Coleman missed a sitter"
WBA - see Swansea apart from Coleman missing the sitter
West Ham - "We played with ten men for most of the game"

I'm fed up of pathetic excuses. We've had two years now of poor play, lack of leadership, a disorganised defence, an inability to deal with crosses, and a horrendous home record. FOUR league wins at Goodison this season!

 

[Prevenger17]

Anyone refusing to ask any questions of Martinez yesterday, choosing instead to simply parrot "Mirallas got sent off, Mirallas got sent off", is being very, very silly.

We got beaten by a top 5 team after we had to play them with 10 men for 60 minutes. No shame in that. But there's only been a few pages dedicated to Mirallas and the usual 3 or 4 new threads dedicated to Martinez being sacked with his existing "civil discussion" thread being overrun by the usual post-loss commentators who are nowhere to be seen when we win. But it's all balanced apparently. Unhinged, if you ask me.

 

[DualityNSNO]

We got beaten by a top 5 team after we had to play them with 10 men for 60 minutes. No shame in that. But there's only been a few pages dedicated to Mirallas and the usual 3 or 4 new threads dedicated to Martinez being sacked with his existing "civil discussion" thread being overrun by the usual post-loss commentators who are nowhere to be seen when we win.

I am literally still here still saying the same things when we win, or celebrating the things the manager got right, while still being able to have a discussion and see that criticism of certain things is warranted.

AND WOT?

 

[Chang Elephant]

Canny move by Kev this, a good blatant foul up does an Everton player no harm and should see him starting for next 18 months.
#Entertainer

 

[davek]

I just find it amazing that people think a manager can come in after Moyes and reshape the entire culture of the club as well as the entire squad in such a short period of time.

Its so obvious players need time to develop, you just need to look at Barkley and Lukaku last season and this...i totally disagree with you on Stones and think he will step up a level next season also.

These young lads dont hit their prime for 5+ seasons and the u2s probably need a year or two as well. On top of tht he needs specific players ro match his style and with the money he has been given he has bought amazing quality and massive potential.

Now we finally have money we get the finch farm housing 3 years later than he wanted it, this coming summer. We also have a new major shareholder who (as he is clearly a visionary himself) has bought into the grand plan.

My only worry is that this summer Martinez doesnt strengthen ALL the areas needed. Before i thought we needed a GK / RB / DM / CM / LW / CF over the next two summer windows but now looking at some fans total impatience when something special is being created i really hope he can at least get at least 4 of those positions filled with quality u23 players to continue building our core.

As for Mirallas hes a total disgrace and after the penalty, red card after beig given another chance and a new contract and again today given another chance he absolutely betrays the team, the squad, the manager and the fans...not to mention himself as effectivelt hes not going to the euros now.

i have a feeling Naismith fans turned on martinez as they liked naismiths effort....now mirallas fans whove been complaining all season have turned on martinez as well as golden boy (golden bentley) has done this today and subconciously they blame martinez even seeing lukaku scolding him as soon as he did it.

Jagielka should have had a word with him but hes a passive captain whose captain armband was given to him by moyes as he was leaving. We will start seeing big changes this summer.

"Mirallas fans". Says it all if someone is a fan of that lunatic. He shouldn't play another second for this club. He ruined a game plan in 34 minutes yesterday and he has form for doing it...then some wonder why the manager doesn't rate him. Get him out of the club.

Jagielka is a useless captain and needs the armband stripping from him. He's another underachiever who we could do with binning.

Summer will come; Martinez will then need to act on the lack of backbone in this squad more than the lack of talent we have.

 

[Evertonized]

Have been saying it since last season... Kevin is a selfish player and doesn't play for the team.

The penalty last season, his attitude throughout last season, somehow managing to get sent off in the FIRST HALF for two yellows yesterday and his "flashes of brilliance" before deflating into a nothing player for the rest of the game.

Needs to be sold.

 

[Prevenger17]

Jagielka is a useless captain and needs the armband stripping from him. He's another underachiever who we could do with binning.

You're so wrong here it's unreal

 

[TrixyStevens]

"Mirallas fans". Says it all if someone is a fan of that lunatic. He shouldn't play another second for this club. He ruined a game plan in 34 minutes yesterday and he has form for doing it...then some wonder why the manager doesn't rate him. Get him out of the club.

Jagielka is a useless captain and needs the armband stripping from him. He's another underachiever who we could do with binning.

Summer will come; Martinez will then need to act on the lack of backbone in this squad more than the lack of talent we have.

He should work on his own backbone, or lack there of, first.

 

[Lanolin]

Mirallas was stupid yesterday and there's no excuse, but I don't see the logic in blaming his attitude.

Did we say barry had a bad attitude when he got himself sent off against Chelsea last year, making a stupid tackle that also led to a goal? Does McCarthy have a bad attitude because he basically forgot he was on a football pitch for a minute at bournemouth and had to handle the ball because he had no idea what was going on around him, giving away a penalty and running the risk of getting sent off and bringing the one remaining hope we have for this season crashing down?

People have already decided mirallas is a bad egg and are shoehorning this misdemeanour to fit the narrative, even though it makes no sense. He's an idiot clearly, but I don't think he was being selfish or arrogant, just stupid.

 

[nsno-chris]

Mirallas was stupid yesterday and there's no excuse, but I don't see the logic in blaming his attitude.

Did we say barry had a bad attitude when he got himself sent off against Chelsea last year, making a stupid tackle that also led to a goal? Does McCarthy have a bad attitude because he basically forgot he was on a football pitch for a minute at bournemouth and had to handle the ball because he had no idea what was going on around him, giving away a penalty and running the risk of getting sent off and bringing the one remaining hope we have for this season crashing down?

People have already decided mirallas is a bad egg and are shoehorning this misdemeanour to fit the narrative, even though it makes no sense. He's an idiot clearly, but I don't think he was being selfish or arrogant, just stupid.

It gives people an excuse.

Watch what happens if he leaves, jags is next seasons target and the knives are being sharpened as we speak

 

[Toffeelover]

Hold on we got our second goal and a penalty chance when we were down to 10 men! It was the poor subbing and tacics after that which blew the game.