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2022/23 Kevin Thelwell

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DualityNSNO said:
How much did those play? Cuz Tarks played about 5 games his first season, didn't he?

And 24+ isn't exactly a youth prospect or giving youth a chance - those are/should be players in their prime.

Also one of those that played frequently for Burnley in that season was Joey Barton lol
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michael keane was 22 and he started 44 games in the championship

of all the players aged over 30 years old these were their stats

michael duff - 23 league starts, 1 sub appearance
paul robinson - 0 games
matthew taylor - 1 league start, 23 sub appearances
joey barton - 37 league starts, 1 sub appearance
matt gilks - 0 games
lloyd dyer - 0 starts, 3 sub appearances
dean marney - 7 starts, 5 sub appearances

basically only 1 player over the age of 30 was a regular in their first team, michael duff played half the league games
 
RomanReigns said:
i think they had 7 players over the age of 30, 2 of which were goalkeepers

our current squad already has 2 goalkeepers over the age of 30 in begovic and lonergan

it also looks like they signed around 20 players that season and only 3 were over the age of 30 including 1 goalkeeper

the majority of the players they signed were aged 27 or under

he also paid 12 mil to sign a 24 year old andre gray and 4 mil for a 23 year old james tarkowski
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Are these the same as:

RomanReigns said:
it will be youth prospects from teams like spurs and man city probably
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RomanReigns said:
michael keane was 22 and he started 44 games in the championship

of all the players aged over 30 years old these were their stats

michael duff - 23 league starts, 1 sub appearance
paul robinson - 0 games
matthew taylor - 1 league start, 23 sub appearances
joey barton - 37 league starts, 1 sub appearance
matt gilks - 0 games
lloyd dyer - 0 starts, 3 sub appearances
dean marney - 7 starts, 5 sub appearances

basically only 1 player over the age of 30 was a regular in their first team, michael duff played half the league games
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They also had 4 in there who were all 29 years old who all had regular games.
 

RomanReigns said:
michael keane was 22 and he started 44 games in the championship

of all the players aged over 30 years old these were their stats

michael duff - 23 league starts, 1 sub appearance
paul robinson - 0 games
matthew taylor - 1 league start, 23 sub appearances
joey barton - 37 league starts, 1 sub appearance
matt gilks - 0 games
lloyd dyer - 0 starts, 3 sub appearances
dean marney - 7 starts, 5 sub appearances

basically only 1 player over the age of 30 was a regular in their first team, michael duff played half the league games
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Player that Sean Dyches Burnley signed under the age of 24
2014/15 - Michael Keane (22) started 17 games
2014/15 - Marvin Sordell (23) started 3 games
2015/16 - James Tarkowski 23 started 3 games (joined halfway through the season) started 6 games the following season
2015/16 - Chris Long 20 Started 1 game
2017/18 Charlie Taylor 23 started 10 games
2019/20 Bailey Peacock Farrell 22 started 0 games
2021/22 Nathan Collins 20 started 10 games and then Dyche got sacked

Players from Burnleys acadamy to play more than 10 games

Dwight McNeil

There are some other players such as Jimmy Dunne & Joel Mumbongo who got 3 or 4 appearances under Dyche but only once they had hit the ages of 22 & 23 respectively, but finding articles of the usual spin of 'they are working with the first team, 'need to work hard', ' not ready yet'

Now i understand this is all subjective and i picked a specific age of under 23 (mainly because the players people are worried Dyche wont give an opportunity are under 23), i think these stats prove that someone like Isaac Price will be making the right decision, and i wouldn't be surprised to see someone like Stan Mills follow him.

In terms of Jimmy Dunne, there appears to be similarity's between him and Simms, his only starts appear to be aginst the likes of City or United away, then pulls him out hte team for the likes of someone like Kevin Long

I'm going to post this in the Dyche thread, as its a little off topic
 
RomanReigns said:
i dont think going back 7 years ago is a good comparison either

dyche would have had completely different resources and financial restraints back then
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Well he wouldn't, he would have been skimping, just like he would here.

He's been relegated twice, promoted twice, both times opting to use experience. I don't see why he'd suddenly change his style if we went down.
 
RomanReigns said:
it will be youth prospects from teams like spurs and man city probably
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But we could have been doing this kind of thing now too. So I wonder if they really will, or will we be looking at older championship or relegated players and we'll build some kind of 'Relegated XI' . sorry I'm not very optimistic today. Our squad depth would be significantly improved if we'd had youth prospects instead of what our bench looks like.
 
Nymzee said:
Well he wouldn't, he would have been skimping, just like he would here.

He's been relegated twice, promoted twice, both times opting to use experience. I don't see why he'd suddenly change his style if we went down.
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i'd be very suprised if we got relegated and the likes of patterson, simms, cannon, dobbin, branthwaite and nkounkou did not become regular starters for us
 

APN_EFC said:
But we could have been doing this kind of thing now too. So I wonder if they really will, or will we be looking at older championship or relegated players and we'll build some kind of 'Relegated XI' . sorry I'm not very optimistic today. Our squad depth would be significantly improved if we'd had youth prospects instead of what our bench looks like.
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We would do what Stoke & West Brom have done since they got relegated and just build a squad full of Dwight Gayles & Tom Rogic's
 
People seem to ignore Dyche will only want ExPeRiEnCeD PlAyErS with over 200 championship appearances anyway, who's arsed about some young players anyway. Even if Thelwell actually does a surprisingly good job somehow he'd still not play them.
 

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