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2022/23 Kevin Thelwell

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Simon Buttle said:
The board/chairman and owner should have been ridden out of this club years ago imo, they are at the root of most of our troubles and have been for a long time, the likes of Kenwright simply fail to understand that it's NOT a game/sport anymore it's business these days and you have to operate like one to achieve success. The traditional way of running a club is long gone. Then you get idiots like Moshiri who is just a "front" for someone else and when that falls apart he runs off crying in his corner wanting nothing more to do with it anymore.
I'm not one for chopping and changing with managers but I really don't see where this is going at the moment. After 9 months and numerous signings (of the manager/DoF choice) I would at the very least expect us to have a basic shape and way of playing. We have gone into the season clearly with a view that hoofing the ball up to Dom to hold up for others running behind. I'm sorry but that is like schoolboy tactics and it's extremely easy to play against and very predictable. I'm all for seeing what happens in January but it HAS to work there can't be any mistakes and any player coming in HAS to hit the ground running.
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Yes there needs to be a complete regime change of the Board and Ownership, that much is certain.

What is less certain is what kind of path we're on with our football personnel. Right now, I worry for Lampard. I don't want him sacked, even if we lose at the weekend, but the signs don't look good for him. For me, he has come out with some preposterous statements in the aftermaths of the last two games that managers normally do when they know their gig is coming to an end. I hope he can get a win before the WC and can galvanise us during the break.

As for Thelwell I just think any talk of his future is laughably premature, especially when it comes from certain fans who spent three years worshipping the ground in which Marcel Brands walked and still make excuses for him even now.

He needs another transfer window to fix his oversights from the summer. If he doesn't, then he's fair game for me but not until then.
 
DanEFC92 said:
Walking into a mess is the only thing he got right. Almost everything else is comically wrong. £35m for Maupay and McNeil is cheap apparently. lol.
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It wasn't £35m first off, it was under £30m with low fees up front but let's take them as £15m each which they weren't, if you honestly believe in this day and age £15m is expensive for a PL striker that has a consistent 1 in 4 record and a 21 year old winger with a lot of PL experience then I'm afraid then we have different understandings of our finances.
 
Baggzio said:
It wasn't £35m first off, it was under £30m with low fees up front but let's take them as £15m each which they weren't, if you honestly believe in this day and age £15m is expensive for a PL striker that has a consistent 1 in 4 record and a 21 year old winger with a lot of PL experience then I'm afraid then we have different understandings of our finances.
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What good is that if the striker just doesn't fit our system? Isn't remotely similar to DCL? He might have worked, sort of, for Brighton's.
What good is that PL experience if he's absolutely garbage?
 
Lanolin said:
Mate, in the summer (before we signed Maupay) you said:

"if you genuinely look at this squad fully fit it is really only light a backup forward and that's about it"

I wouldn't be talking about other people being on hard narcotics if I was you.
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I also stand by that statement fully, that was when Calvert Lewin didn't have 2 more injuries in that time and there were hopes that Gray and Gordon would actually kick on instead of completely falling off a cliff, also Patterson got a really unlucky injury. When the window closed I stand by the fact that on paper our squad was the strongest it had been in years.

I think fully fit this squad easily is a top 12-14 side with no fear of relegation, the issue is many are so unreliable due to injuries, attitude or whatever else. I think the squad is only light on a goalscoring or creative winger now, we could've done with one in the Summer but I didn't think it was a total necessity but I was under the illusion then that we'd have either Gray or McNeil, 2 players that should be decent, on one side and a lad apparently worth £60m on the other side with Calvert Lewin playing in the middle. Clearly that isn't gonna be the case.
 
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DanEFC92 said:
What good is that if the striker just doesn't fit our system? Isn't remotely similar to Dominic Calvert-Lewin? He might have worked, sort of, for Brighton's.
What good is that PL experience if he's absolutely garbage?
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What would be the point in having strikers that are all the same? That makes no sense at all unless you know for a fact that your main one cannot play, which at that point why have the main one to begin with? Rondon is far more suited to this supposed "system" we play, would you prefer him in or Maupay? Also he didn't "sort of" work for Brighton, he was their top scorer every year that he was there, why try to pretend like he's crap when he scored more than any of our players last year including one we sold for £60m and another that we could've sold for £60m.

As for McNeil I've said since he's come in that I think he's decent and will probably improve, even if he does score or assist he's much better as a team player and enables the full back behind him play better because they can get forward more. If both players turn out to be not good enough, then so be it but I hardly think they've had a chance in their Everton careers so far because fans are on their backs already despite the fact that they're not even a half season in with a new team.
 

Baggzio said:
What would be the point in having strikers that are all the same? That makes no sense at all unless you know for a fact that your main one cannot play, which at that point why have the main one to begin with? Rondon is far more suited to this supposed "system" we play, would you prefer him in or Maupay? Also he didn't "sort of" work for Brighton, he was their top scorer every year that he was there, why try to pretend like he's crap when he scored more than any of our players last year including one we sold for £60m and another that we could've sold for £60m.

As for McNeil I've said since he's come in that I think he's decent and will probably improve, even if he does score or assist he's much better as a team player and enables the full back behind him play better because they can get forward more. If both players turn out to be not good enough, then so be it but I hardly think they've had a chance in their Everton careers so far because fans are on their backs already despite the fact that they're not even a half season in with a new team.
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It makes no sense to have a player there that only works in a specific system, and then not play that system, so it's effectively like playing with ten men.
Cause I've seen him play and he missed guilt edge chances all the time for Brighton. He's an average-to-poor player. You can look at stats till your blue in the face to convince yourself it was a smart signing. He's not in the same league as Richarlison.

The fans are not to blame for them being garbo.
 

Baggzio said:
It wasn't £35m first off, it was under £30m with low fees up front but let's take them as £15m each which they weren't, if you honestly believe in this day and age £15m is expensive for a PL striker that has a consistent 1 in 4 record and a 21 year old winger with a lot of PL experience then I'm afraid then we have different understandings of our finances.
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It's wasted money is what it is.
 

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