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Koeman: "Barkley looking for a new challenge"

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longers said:
Lame. Now we gonna end up with £50m siggurdson instead. Awful business buying him at that price and selling Barkley for probably half that amount... truly awful.

I know some aren't arsed but it's put a big downer on the summer for me.
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100% were replacing someone we classed as a star or potential star with someone whose just going to be a cog in a system
 
Zatara said:
If you have stars like Lukaku, Stones, Deulofeu and Barkley, then you add 'supporting cast members' like Pickford, Gana, Schneiderlin, Coleman, Keane around them they will play better.

We failed as we had the stars but no supporting cast. Now we have the supporting cast and no stars.
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I don't agree with you. I don't want to recycle my points.

Lukaku ok I give you that.

Deulofeu is not a star. He was even dropped by El Fraudo and is bought by his former club to make profit next year. I don't rate Stones he can't even defend. I want a defender who can actually defend. Barkley has all the tools but does not have the football brain so I am not bothered with him leaving. He does not show he can carry the team attack against the Sky6.
 
Zatara said:
If you have stars like Lukaku, Stones, Deulofeu and Barkley, then you add 'supporting cast members' like Pickford, Gana, Schneiderlin, Coleman, Keane around them they will play better.

We failed as we had the stars but no supporting cast. Now we have the supporting cast and no stars.
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We'll see.

We were/have been too reliant on individuals for some time.

That will have to change. Change is good.

It's a huge shame Ross is off. But it's his call, so that's all there is too it really.
 
Zatara said:
He's dead on. Martinez is a former manager of ours whose never been anything less than complimentary about us and I find it disrespectful for people to continuously slate the guy.

I'm sick of people taking a point made on here and then turning it into a "but el fraudo" blah blah blah, that time has passed..

Mike Walker was far worse but he never gets 1% of this vitriol.
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I'm not slating RM. I liked him, but it came to the point where he had taken us backwards Zat. And that has cost us in the long run and is still costing us now.
 

Groucho said:
Yes but not at the expense of an entire team that doesn't thrive under that style of management.

Koeman is too blunt for him. They just don't seem to get on. I don't think it's more complicated than that.
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This really is all there is to it IMO
 
hktoffee said:
I don't agree with you. I don't want to recycle my points.

Lukaku ok I give you that.

Deulofeu is not a star. He was even dropped by El Fraudo and is bought by his former club to make profit next year. I don't rate Stones he can't even defend. I want a defender who can actually defend. Barkley has all the tools but does not have the football brain so I am not bothered with him leaving. He does not show he can carry the team attack against the Sky6.
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El Fraudo? Pack it in...
 
Bebeto said:
Of course lukaku has been at his ear...I have been saying it for a while...the snake...I wish him the worst at united.
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Can't be serious this, blaming Lukaku. Deflection. Barkley is old and wise enough to make his own decisions.
 

Zatara said:
If you have stars like Lukaku, Stones, Deulofeu and Barkley, then you add 'supporting cast members' like Pickford, Gana, Schneiderlin, Coleman, Keane around them they will play better.

We failed as we had the stars but no supporting cast. Now we have the supporting cast and no stars.
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You seem to think building a Football team is like shoping in Tesco
 
Zatara said:
He's dead on. Martinez is a former manager of ours whose never been anything less than complimentary about us and I find it disrespectful for people to continuously slate the guy.

I'm sick of people taking a point made on here and then turning it into a "but el fraudo" blah blah blah, that time has passed..

Mike Walker was far worse but he never gets 1% of this vitriol.
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You may respect him but some others don't. Martina does not even play an official match and you call him a clown yesterday. Double standard Zat?

Barkley chooses to go. Players come players go it's football. This is a Ronald Koeman's team and it might take another window to build his team.
 
jinkyali said:
The last two title winning teams have been won where the cog's in the system were by and large the main reason why the league was won.
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Cogs in wheels make things happen. Like you, dont see signing cogs in wheels as a bad thing at all.
 
jinkyali said:
The last two title winning teams have been won where the cog's in the system were by and large the main reason why the league was won.
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Costa + Hazard and Vardy and Mahrez....

Suporting cast of Kante etc....

Who are our Costa and Hazard?
 
Gylfi over Barks all day.

Every day.

What he did at Spurs is meaningless. And it's even debatable whether he was truly a failure there.

Ross is just not as good as he thinks he is, or as good as some with a bone to pick among Evertonians think he is.
 

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