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Koeman: "Barkley looking for a new challenge"

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peteblue said:
John Collins, who wasn't a bad player, sums it up quite well.....

"Some managers, you look at him and you say he’s got talent, can I put that desire and that work ethic into him and turn him into a top player, but it’s difficult to give players that desire. When I watch him sometimes he doesn’t really want the ball all the time.

He’s talented, he’s got skill, he can beat a man and he can shoot but end product – 21 goals in 150 matches – I don’t think it’s a great figure.

Sometimes he doesn’t run, work and sweat enough for the team when you watch him.”
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Listened to him this morning
Couldn't fault what he said to be fair
 
Barkley leaving EVERTON has nothing to do with football.It has nothing to do with his relationship with Ronald.Its not even about other clubs wanting him.Work it out for yourselves,its not difficult
 
Cant honestly say i've seen too many things/predictions that davek has called correctly over the past few years.......dont think its got anything to do with RK (who wants Ross to stay) Moshiri etc both of whom the lemon one hates....suspect it maybe a personal thing as Joey66 suggests but I am not party to that sort of info......the lad wants to go but I feel he'll be a bench warmer at any of the top 6. Sad imo but inevitable....lets move on folks.
 

Thomasc said:
I have expressed my thoughts on the Barkley situation very clearly, not just the opinions of others, maybe you have missed them dear :)

As for the point you are trying to make, there does seem to be a common theme amongst certain posters who thrive on using anything negative to have a go at our manager as they have repeatedly told us how much they dislike him, so I have commented on it as I find that very strange for grown ups, it's really not that hard to fathom.
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Doesn't really address my point that the bias and ott stuff goes on the opposite side too

But you just seem to spot the stuff from people who disagree with your viewpoint

I just found it really curious and inexplicable, so I thought I'd raise it with you Tommo

Cheers. coyb
 
bicycleheader said:
Doesn't really address my point that the bias and ott stuff goes on the opposite side too

But you just seem to spot the stuff from people who disagree with your viewpoint

I just found it really curious and inexplicable, so I thought I'd raise it with you Tommo

Cheers. coyb
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It's a forum mate, for debating apparently. When you weigh that up it really isn't that strange.

I also agree with people and comment on that as well, but OK, maybe you haven't seen those posts, I will put it down to that.

If we didn't interact with others we would all be chatting to ourselves.

;)
 
Barkley has decided he does'nt want to play for us so fair enough! If no club offers what we want for him, let him not be registered in any of our squads for the season, sitting in the u23 or youth team will give him his challenge :-) No playing time no World Cup place! Let him rot the ungrateful one :-) His agent can give him a hug to feel better :-)
 
Thomasc said:
It's a forum mate, for debating apparently. When you weigh that up it really isn't that strange.

I also agree with people and comment on that as well, but OK, maybe you haven't seen those posts, I will put it down to that.

If we didn't interact with others we would all be chatting to ourselves.

;)
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At no point have I said you don't agree with posters or interact with others sir
 

davek said:
He's gone now. It's over. We'll next see RB at Wembley in a Spurs shirt.

23 years old and his best years ahead of him which should have been here but now isn't.

It's outrageous.
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But obviously Koeman fault? You'd have him offer Barkley more money when he continually states he stays out of the financial side of the club? Or would you have him putting Barkley first on the team sheet even when he performs as he did at Arsenal?
 
peteblue said:
John Collins, who wasn't a bad player, sums it up quite well.....

"Some managers, you look at him and you say he’s got talent, can I put that desire and that work ethic into him and turn him into a top player, but it’s difficult to give players that desire. When I watch him sometimes he doesn’t really want the ball all the time.

He’s talented, he’s got skill, he can beat a man and he can shoot but end product – 21 goals in 150 matches – I don’t think it’s a great figure.

Sometimes he doesn’t run, work and sweat enough for the team when you watch him.”
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All the above is true mate, but, frustrating as Ross can be at times, he has the ability to do something special or just plain old-fashioned run a match, and pretty much every top team has at least one player who can do that.

I don't know why he wants to leave, but it's probably a combination of wanting to play CL football, a personality thing with Koeman and stuff going on in his personal life, but, if he leaves, there will defo be games where we miss him, or at least miss that sort of player, so he ain't going to be easy to replace.
 

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