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And the inevitable ticket price increase up to RS levels........
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
I tend to agree. These people are ROI investors, not philanthropists/egotists...ie unlike Chelsea's and Man City's owners, they won't be sugar daddies.
b4sunryze
Player Valuation: £225k
Wow talk about world's colliding. San Diegan and lifelong Padres fan here (I am a season ticket owner), and I've adopted Everton as my Premiere League team in part because I've been a suffering "small market" fan of the Padres and saw similar predicaments/challenges and I am used to rooting for the underdog. EFC fan since 2010 (followed Landon Donovan loan) and Grand Old Team member since 2012.
Here's my take on John Moores and the Moore's Padres era:
Started off strong, believe it or not, he saved the Padres and kept them in San Diego. San Diego during the early and mid-1990s went through a "fire-sale" where we traded/let-go all of our big-name stars at the time equivalent of selling Barkley, Stones, Baines - that was because the prior management was poor at running the team financially (That management team was Tom Werner, who later purchased the Red Sox w/ John Henry, LFC's ownership group).
Moores came in, cleaned house on the financial and marketing side. Hired some really smart baseball business minds for the operations group, and re-engaged the team with the community. This management team was led by Larry Luchino.
Larry's goal was to help get a new stadium built. The reason why the Padres stayed in San Diego, was because John and Larry convinced the community to push through a brand new stadium, now called Petco Park that was built in 2003. Together with JMI Realty Group, this ball park was the catalyst behind the revitalization of Downtown San Diego, which includes the East Village, Gas Lamp, Bay Park/Marina, and Little Italy.
The product on the field also improved as well, we won and made it to the playoffs 4 times in 14 years (see below).
Back to Larry Luchino, because the Padres were a small market team with limited financial resources we had to be smarter and savvier in how we spent our money and what to invest in. The Padres from an executive management standpoint (the Front Office, the baseball operations, the marketing department) were top notch. Really the smartest minds in Baseball today got their start with the Padres. Larry Luchino went on to be the President of the Boston Red Sox, The Cub's President Theo Epstein, and the Cub's General Manager Jed Hoyer all were former Padres executives. These are the brains behind the Championship team that brought back the Boston Redsox's first World Series since 1918. Paul DePodesta, who was portrayed by Jonah Hill in Moneyball, was also part of the Padres front office in 2006. Both DePodesta and Sandy Alderson (Padre's CEO from 2005 to 2009) were largely credited with the New York Mets success this past season in Baseball.
That is what you can expect with John Moores, a very savvy and smart business man who knows how to hire a good front office, sports operations and marketing team. He's not afraid to hire outsiders and invest in younger minds with fresher ideas. Under Moore's leadership, the Padres got a new stadium built, and turned the culture to one that fought hard and was competitive despite our lack of financial resources.
That said, there is a flipside to the coin. The reason why the Padres fell into disrepair and mediocrity from 2006 to 2009 onwards was Moores disappeared and stepped out of the limelight for personal reasons that we found out later that he was going through an acrimonious divorce. He no longer was a face in the community, he moved back to Houston from San Diego and basically abandoned the team. Everything was neglected, Larry Luchino left in 2003, we did well in 2005 and 2006, but it went down hill fast. John lost half his money allegedly and had to sell the Padres to pay his ex-wife. He sold the Padres for $600M+ USD and kept $200M from the television contract, way more than the $178M he payed for it 10 years prior. The controversy is whether or not he had the right to the $200M of TV money and hamstrung the next owners.
All in all, as a Padre fan, despite the downside of the years leading up to the sale of the Padres - the Moores era was a positive one for me. We have a new stadium (one of the best experiences in baseball), we had better coverage locally (new TV deal), we were better off financially, and for a time being we had a really smart management team and a good product on the field. We went to the World Series in 1998 under Moores and lost to the NY Yankees (think Man United). We won 4 Western Division titles 1996, 1998, 2005, 2006 during the 14 years under Moore's ownership, prior to that we only won once 1984.
I think as long as he stays involved with the team and is not distracted by another divorce, Everton is going to be in good hands. He is not Roman Abromovich, he's not going to dip into his own bank account to fund the team, what he's going to do is turn around the front office, hire really smart people to run team, improve the stature of Everton with the community, improve marketing and maximizing revenue potential by possibly getting a new stadium built and stay out of the way with football decisions.
Here's my take on John Moores and the Moore's Padres era:
Started off strong, believe it or not, he saved the Padres and kept them in San Diego. San Diego during the early and mid-1990s went through a "fire-sale" where we traded/let-go all of our big-name stars at the time equivalent of selling Barkley, Stones, Baines - that was because the prior management was poor at running the team financially (That management team was Tom Werner, who later purchased the Red Sox w/ John Henry, LFC's ownership group).
Moores came in, cleaned house on the financial and marketing side. Hired some really smart baseball business minds for the operations group, and re-engaged the team with the community. This management team was led by Larry Luchino.
Larry's goal was to help get a new stadium built. The reason why the Padres stayed in San Diego, was because John and Larry convinced the community to push through a brand new stadium, now called Petco Park that was built in 2003. Together with JMI Realty Group, this ball park was the catalyst behind the revitalization of Downtown San Diego, which includes the East Village, Gas Lamp, Bay Park/Marina, and Little Italy.
The product on the field also improved as well, we won and made it to the playoffs 4 times in 14 years (see below).
Back to Larry Luchino, because the Padres were a small market team with limited financial resources we had to be smarter and savvier in how we spent our money and what to invest in. The Padres from an executive management standpoint (the Front Office, the baseball operations, the marketing department) were top notch. Really the smartest minds in Baseball today got their start with the Padres. Larry Luchino went on to be the President of the Boston Red Sox, The Cub's President Theo Epstein, and the Cub's General Manager Jed Hoyer all were former Padres executives. These are the brains behind the Championship team that brought back the Boston Redsox's first World Series since 1918. Paul DePodesta, who was portrayed by Jonah Hill in Moneyball, was also part of the Padres front office in 2006. Both DePodesta and Sandy Alderson (Padre's CEO from 2005 to 2009) were largely credited with the New York Mets success this past season in Baseball.
That is what you can expect with John Moores, a very savvy and smart business man who knows how to hire a good front office, sports operations and marketing team. He's not afraid to hire outsiders and invest in younger minds with fresher ideas. Under Moore's leadership, the Padres got a new stadium built, and turned the culture to one that fought hard and was competitive despite our lack of financial resources.
That said, there is a flipside to the coin. The reason why the Padres fell into disrepair and mediocrity from 2006 to 2009 onwards was Moores disappeared and stepped out of the limelight for personal reasons that we found out later that he was going through an acrimonious divorce. He no longer was a face in the community, he moved back to Houston from San Diego and basically abandoned the team. Everything was neglected, Larry Luchino left in 2003, we did well in 2005 and 2006, but it went down hill fast. John lost half his money allegedly and had to sell the Padres to pay his ex-wife. He sold the Padres for $600M+ USD and kept $200M from the television contract, way more than the $178M he payed for it 10 years prior. The controversy is whether or not he had the right to the $200M of TV money and hamstrung the next owners.
All in all, as a Padre fan, despite the downside of the years leading up to the sale of the Padres - the Moores era was a positive one for me. We have a new stadium (one of the best experiences in baseball), we had better coverage locally (new TV deal), we were better off financially, and for a time being we had a really smart management team and a good product on the field. We went to the World Series in 1998 under Moores and lost to the NY Yankees (think Man United). We won 4 Western Division titles 1996, 1998, 2005, 2006 during the 14 years under Moore's ownership, prior to that we only won once 1984.
I think as long as he stays involved with the team and is not distracted by another divorce, Everton is going to be in good hands. He is not Roman Abromovich, he's not going to dip into his own bank account to fund the team, what he's going to do is turn around the front office, hire really smart people to run team, improve the stature of Everton with the community, improve marketing and maximizing revenue potential by possibly getting a new stadium built and stay out of the way with football decisions.
Chang Elephant
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What part do you see Robert Elstone continuing to play ?
Dario Terracotta
Player Valuation: £70m
Frank Spencer in "Some mothers do 'ave 'em"
lol
Someone has to check the counters on the turnstiles
TheHumbleEgg
Player Valuation: £15m
They're looking for someone for the 12-8 shift on Saturdays in the BRICK.
b4sunryze
Player Valuation: £225k
Hopefully, fired or at worst in an interim role as part of the transition until a replacement is found. In my opinion, Elstone's done a woeful job with sponsorship and distribution (Kitbag deal for example). I can't find a [Poor language removed] Everton jersey in any sports store here in the US and have to order and get my kits shipped from the official website.
Moores on the business side of sports likes to hire people who can maximize turnover (revenues) and improve the fan experience.
"In front office performance Sports Business Journal, in its comprehensive mystery shopper’s evaluation, said the Padres were the major’s finest and Bloomberg.com rated the Padres sales staff the game’s best – for the second year in a row (no small achievement given the team’s performance last year and so far in 2012)."
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2011/05/23/Research-and-Ratings/IntelliShop.aspx
Deco
Player Valuation: £40m
Great post mate. It's good to read a fan's perspective of the Moore era of the Padres.
The way football is moving forward, it seems like the kind of owner that would work well with us.
BoysInBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
Confident that this will never happen, as there isn't the same demand for tickets for us as there is for other clubs.
Until we're either a) very successful on the pitch; and b) have a large waiting list for season tickets; and c) have sellouts for every game, there won't be massive ticket price rises, on the same scale as other clubs rises.
The geographical & economical area we are based in ensures prices will stay at a certain level.
Steve Wigan
Player Valuation: £35m
...about as far as Knowsley ?.............
Bazlar
Player Valuation: £25m
In charge of the sunbeds at FF
allezlesbleus
Player Valuation: £35m
Great post. San Diego is an ace city. Son lived there for about about 16 months. If this comes true let's hope your hopes come true!
bring the ghost on
Player Valuation: £35m
mmmmsnouts
Player Valuation: £40m
If you mean the money available to invest in the squad will stay the same (i.e. tied to TV revenue), I can live with that as long as they also invest in sorting the stadium. Otherwise there's not really a reason for them to buy.
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