Leeds United vs. Everton - 3pm KO - 1st August

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Think Martinez has done Barkley no good at all with all his phenomenals and extraordinarys and exceptionals about him in the press in his first season. You can do too much to a players confidence and then when they start getting stick off the fans their heads drop. He needs to be carefully managed this season. Wish Martinez would shut up at times and let their playing do the talking.


I think he has called kone phenomenal as well and mc Geady and Osman. He just loves that word. Did he used it today?
 
Phil Neville, Jags and Bily have all scored screamers for us. None of them 3 could ever score a goal like Barkley did against Newcastle. Neither could Shelvey.
Pace, power & the ability to cannon shots of either foot with limited space or backlift, instead we should all talk about the things he can't do apparently. I'll take pure natural ability over learnt behaviour all day
 


Well ..... let's just settle for mid table then.If other teams can compete on 2 fronts .......... so should we.

No other team in the prem progressed further than we did in a European competition last season. They also spent more than we did, had bigger squads than we did. We also have a manager who had never managed in Europe before.

So...something had to give.
 
you would think that, but Martinez confused me last season...he seemed to be blind to the bleeding obvious. There appears to be a 'style over substance' obduracy to his football mentality. Unfortunately, I found his possession-based style as interesting as watching grass grow and about as productive as the offspring conceiving attempts of a male liger.

Well, he was hit and miss. He did change it up, he went direct, he did sort the defence out when people said he couldn't.

A big problem out of his control was the only player who ever hit any form all season was arguably Aaron Lennon.
 

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