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Leighton Baines

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Replace one former kopite in baines with another in the form of creswell while at the same time annoying all those deluded West Ham fans who think they won the World Cup on their own and that just because they got given a stadium they are anything above average.

Peid Reid was a former kopite....just saying like.

But as the saying goes "once Everton has touched you "

Couldnt care who any player supports as long as they do the biz for us.

Baines....still class.
 
I think people misunderstand what the "one of us" banner really meant

When the term "us" was used, it didn't necessarily mean in the context "He's an Evertonian like we are"

The "us" was more to do with Baines speaking out and telling the truth, whilst also saying what a lot of fans at the time were saying

He essentially gave "us" a voice at a time when we were voiceless and thus became one of "us" in the process

He didn't say anything that wasn't true, and Martinez's vindictive response to someone coming out and saying what fans were thinking was probably a moment where a lot of people who were erring about him finally started to turn on him

In a lot of ways, I see Baines as a genuine hero. His sacrifice started the ball rolling to Martinez's demise and essentially rescued the club from the eventual relegation we would have suffered had Martinez remained in power

So he truly was "one of us", regardless of who he supported in his youth
 

I think people misunderstand what the "one of us" banner really meant

When the term "us" was used, it didn't necessarily mean in the context "He's an Evertonian like we are"

The "us" was more to do with Baines speaking out and telling the truth, whilst also saying what a lot of fans at the time were saying

He essentially gave "us" a voice at a time when we were voiceless and thus became one of "us" in the process

He didn't say anything that wasn't true, and Martinez's vindictive response to someone coming out and saying what fans were thinking was probably a moment where a lot of people who were erring about him finally started to turn on him

In a lot of ways, I see Baines as a genuine hero. His sacrifice started the ball rolling to Martinez's demise and essentially rescued the club from the eventual relegation we would have suffered had Martinez remained in power

So he truly was "one of us", regardless of who he supported in his youth

A hero for doing what? He started bitching about matters in the winter of Martinez's second season, not when it all started going arse up.

That's a very nice revisionist history you have up there, but it doesn't hold water. Baines was not guaranteed a starting place anymore with Oviedo providing tough competition and he didn't like it one bit.

It was pure self concern that had him briefing the Echo and stirring up trouble halfway through that second season (NOT half way through the third season), not the love of a club he's never supported at any point in his life.
 
great player and servant to the club, when we replace him i hope its with Ricardo Rodriguez or Jonas Hector (especially after the RS were after them all summer)
 
A hero for doing what? He started bitching about matters in the winter of Martinez's second season, not when it all started going arse up.

That's a very nice revisionist history you have up there, but it doesn't hold water. Baines was not guaranteed a starting place anymore with Oviedo providing tough competition and he didn't like it one bit.

It was pure self concern that had him briefing the Echo and stirring up trouble halfway through that second season (NOT half way through the third season), not the love of a club he's never supported at any point in his life.

This is utter tosh David
 
A hero for doing what? He started bitching about matters in the winter of Martinez's second season, not when it all started going arse up.

That's a very nice revisionist history you have up there, but it doesn't hold water. Baines was not guaranteed a starting place anymore with Oviedo providing tough competition and he didn't like it one bit.

It was pure self concern that had him briefing the Echo and stirring up trouble halfway through that second season (NOT half way through the third season), not the love of a club he's never supported at any point in his life.
You say this like it's an absolute fact. Is this true or something you are just of the assumption that it happened that way ?
 

This is utter tosh David

You say this like it's an absolute fact. Is this true or something you are just of the assumption that it happened that way ?

He was out injured at the time when we were playing halfway through the second Martinez season and one of the tv companies had him as a studio guest and he was dertermined then to voice his belief that he didn't know what way we were supposed to be playing. Now that is not something any player should be doing no matter who it is as manager, a manager btw who only ever spoke well of him.

He had an agenda very early on, and his third Martinez season outburst was NOT the act of someone sacrificing himself for the good of the team. It just wasnt. The lad had a massive axe to grind and it's pointless to think otherwise.
 
He was out injured at the time when we were playing halfway through the second Martinez season and one of the tv companies had him as a studio guest and he was dertermined then to voice his belief that he didn't know what way we were supposed to be playing. Now that is not something any player should be doing no matter who it is as manager, a manager btw who only ever spoke well of him.

He had an agenda very early on, and his third Martinez season outburst was NOT the act of someone sacrificing himself for the good of the team. It just wasnt. The lad had a massive axe to grind and it's pointless to think otherwise.
Possibly had just had a gut full of martinez's management, I'm not really too fussed about him telling it as he sees it instead of just using a heap of cliches.

Only thing that concerns me particularly is the club winning games which wasn't happening too often over the last 2 seasons.
 
A hero for doing what? He started bitching about matters in the winter of Martinez's second season, not when it all started going arse up.

That's a very nice revisionist history you have up there, but it doesn't hold water. Baines was not guaranteed a starting place anymore with Oviedo providing tough competition and he didn't like it one bit.

It was pure self concern that had him briefing the Echo and stirring up trouble halfway through that second season (NOT half way through the third season), not the love of a club he's never supported at any point in his life.

David I'd thank you to show the appropriate level of love, respect and appreciation for an Everton hero such as Leighton Baines, the voice of the voiceless

Good morrow
 

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