Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
You mean Del boy or RM?
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2017/18 Leighton Baines
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You mean Del boy or RM?
HongKongToffee
Player Valuation: £6m
The sooner he's replacing coco the clown the better.
He has to be starting the next game.
He has to be starting the next game.
Brendan Janus
Player Valuation: £40m
He should start Hong Kong Phooey, he is the number one super guy !
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
This is not really a thing! It's where you end up rather than how your home form is. Obviously that was not good enough in the end either.
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Big Fat Sam
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He was on the bench v Burnley. He's had another week of training. He must start v Brighton.
Mori has played three u23 games, full training for weeks and weeks. Played Tuesday night and will have had three full days rest before Saturday. If this Argentine international is not getting in now ahead of Holgate, Keane and Jagielka it's an outrage. Get him in alongside Keane.
Coleman clearly starts. That's a defence that should see us through until the end of the season without shipping goals like crazy as we have done all season.
Mori has played three u23 games, full training for weeks and weeks. Played Tuesday night and will have had three full days rest before Saturday. If this Argentine international is not getting in now ahead of Holgate, Keane and Jagielka it's an outrage. Get him in alongside Keane.
Coleman clearly starts. That's a defence that should see us through until the end of the season without shipping goals like crazy as we have done all season.
Nyhus
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I get what youre saying, but if you have a wall full of old, wet, moldy boards and replace 5 of the rotten ones with fresh boards worth a combined 200mill, the non-moldy ones arnt going to better the old boards, the old ones will on the other hand infest the fresh ones with death. Its not a one to one analogy, but you get my meaning. And yes, Im a carpenter.
Just to clarify, Im not saying its all Robertos fault, but he is absolutely partly to blame for Evertons state.
He’s barely more influential these days at LB than Cuco. Being deadly serious.
billyblue80
Player Valuation: £70m
He's a left back with a left foot he is automatically an improvement
CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
I agree. He actually has a bit of nasty to him and can tackle just fine. I might want someone with a bit more balance considering how bad our CBs are in space, but he'd still be a massive upgrade.
Kever10
Player Valuation: £20m
The defence under Martinez, across the 3 years:
Howard/Joel
Coleman/Hibbert/Browning
Jagielka/Stones/Distin/Alcaraz/Mori
Baines/Oviedo/Galloway/Garbutt
14 players (sorry if I missed any). Martinez signed 4 of them in 3 years (Plus Holgate, who I don't think made it to 1st team while he was here).
The rest were Moyes signings or youth players, 3 of whom are still regularly included in the 1st team.
Koeman came and added:
Stekelenberg/Pickford
Martina
Williams/Keane
(Plus Kenny who he begrudgingly included after 1st trying Davies and Calvert Lewin in his position).
Now, you could argue that it was Martinez not addressing it sooner that was the problem. That would be fair. He clearly decided that focusing his resources on Lukaku was the most important thing.
But looking at the defence now, as poor we are, and with only Holgate really being included as a Martinez signing, who as we know, didn't really break through while he was there, can we still really say it's Martinez fault?
Using your analogy, Martinez had 2 weak points needed fixing and only had the money to do 1. One was the front door that had panels missing and didn't close any more, the other was a back door that was much older, but still had all its panels, still managed to close and lock, but made a creaking noise and rocked a bit on the hinges when it was left wide open. After fixing the front door, he tried to patch the back door as and when panels finally gave way, and bought another new panel but didn't get round to attaching it.
The new owner of the house, got rid of all the newer panels, but kept the older ones that had now rotted further, and to make matters worse, he used partly rotten (but still expensive) 2nd hand boards to do so as well.
He also sold the front door.
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Azzurri
Player Valuation: £70m
Have me a fight
Absolute rubbish. Attacking was always hid strongest point but he was a decent defender in his prime. Your making him sound like he was no better than van arnolt
Our whole club bottles the derby mate, players, manager, even us fans .
He also delivered us our worst home record IN OUR ENTIRE 140 year history. Mate you sound like a vegan trying to push your carefully picked facts, to win an unwinnable aurgunent. Points rally's mean nothing.... league placings do. Martinez didn't do a better job than Moyes when we finished 4th with 60 points, just because he finished 5th with 72. Also don't think bobby's football was good, it was boring , passionless and by the end a complete liability. It was like watching Italian football in the 90's boring boring boring. He was sacked and rightly so.
He was a bad manager and it's not really debatable.
With mori we might actually carry a threat at set pieces
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