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Leon Osman

Useful squad player ?

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Azzurri said:
I dun geddit.

Who should we start against maybe the most physical side in the league, Osman or the 25 stone Gibson?

Hmmmm.
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This is the worst kind of decision-making that is why the English team has looked so crap for so long. Your answer is basically fill the team with grocks and withstand your way through the game. Osman made one error and that was getting caught on the ball for the 3rd goal, but he had been really good up until then. Some of his passes were lovely, with the kind of subtle craft that eludes most of our squad. The ball to Atsu, then the assist to Lukaku, and generally he kept possession really well.
For all Lukaku's strength, Osman is better and keeping hold of it in tight areas.
 
Stonesy said:
This is the worst kind of decision-making that is why the English team has looked so crap for so long. Your answer is basically fill the team with grocks and withstand your way through the game. Osman made one error and that was getting caught on the ball for the 3rd goal, but he had been really good up until then. Some of his passes were lovely, with the kind of subtle craft that eludes most of our squad. The ball to Atsu, then the assist to Lukaku, and generally he kept possession really well.
For all Lukaku's strength, Osman is better and keeping hold of it in tight areas.
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You properly slate Lukaku and then stick up for Osman.

Unbelievable Jeff.
 
Eric Djemba-Djemba said:
You properly slate Lukaku and then stick up for Osman.

Unbelievable Jeff.
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Not directly, it was to draw an obvious distinction between strength and keeping the ball under pressure. They simply aren't the same. The idea that a 6 footer would be better placed than Osman simply because he's a 6 footer has no merit, which is why I mentioned Lukaku: he lost the ball every time he turned with it even though you would expect him to hold off the defender.


Credit to you for exhibiting the worst brand of Goodison scapegoating. It's almost a form of art for Everton fans, we idolise and worship the 'stars' and lie in mass wait for the unfashionable and unfavourable players to rear their heads. I swear some people around me are waiting with baited breath to get a chance to tell Ossie, Naismith, Hibbert, Kone, Alcaraz, Robles to eff off. Incredibly the same lot wiill fawn over a player for his status, not his actual peformance. I'm slating Lukaku becauise he was hopeless, and sticking up for Osman because he was getting criticism even though he had a good game. Lukaku was awful. Why is he specially exempt?
 
Stonesy said:
Not directly, it was to draw an obvious distinction between strength and keeping the ball under pressure. They simply aren't the same. The idea that a 6 footer would be better placed than Osman simply because he's a 6 footer has no merit, which is why I mentioned Lukaku: he lost the ball every time he turned with it even though you would expect him to hold off the defender.


Credit to you for exhibiting the worst brand of Goodison scapegoating. It's almost a form of art for Everton fans, we idolise and worship the 'stars' and lie in mass wait for the unfashionable and unfavourable players to rear their heads. I swear some people around me are waiting with baited breath to get a chance to tell Ossie, Naismith, Hibbert, Kone, Alcaraz, Robles to eff off. Incredibly the same lot wiill fawn over a player for his status, not his actual peformance. I'm slating Lukaku becauise he was hopeless, and sticking up for Osman because he was getting criticism even though he had a good game. Lukaku was awful. Why is he specially exempt?
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Stonesy said:
Not directly, it was to draw an obvious distinction between strength and keeping the ball under pressure. They simply aren't the same. The idea that a 6 footer would be better placed than Osman simply because he's a 6 footer has no merit, which is why I mentioned Lukaku: he lost the ball every time he turned with it even though you would expect him to hold off the defender.


Credit to you for exhibiting the worst brand of Goodison scapegoating. It's almost a form of art for Everton fans, we idolise and worship the 'stars' and lie in mass wait for the unfashionable and unfavourable players to rear their heads. I swear some people around me are waiting with baited breath to get a chance to tell Ossie, Naismith, Hibbert, Kone, Alcaraz, Robles to eff off. Incredibly the same lot wiill fawn over a player for his status, not his actual peformance. I'm slating Lukaku becauise he was hopeless, and sticking up for Osman because he was getting criticism even though he had a good game. Lukaku was awful. Why is he specially exempt?
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I don't think either of them were bad. Osman did 90% of things right. Lukaku did what a striker should do and put away his goal beautifully. Like Osman, he also rarely lost the ball. Like Osman though he can't play 90 minutes.
 

he looked good on MOTD


...until he sealed the game for palace, like. what position was he playing today? i have no qualms with him getting minutes, but he needs to stay in the opposition half - he's a disaster waiting to happen when he gets the ball in our half - it's happened too many times in the martinez reign alone.
 
toffeejack said:
he looked good on MOTD


...until he sealed the game for palace, like. what position was he playing today? i have no qualms with him getting minutes, but he needs to stay in the opposition half - he's a disaster waiting to happen when he gets the ball in our half - it's happened too many times in the martinez reign alone.
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He was playing on the left of a midfield three behind Eto'o. Iirc he played there a couple of times last year and was OK at it as long as he was subbed on the hour, today he lasted about 30 mins.

Might just be one of those days, all our experienced players seem to be having them and it is the first full game he has started.

Agree his best role is as a backup number 10. Don't think he has the legs or physicality anymore to play on the wing/ central midfield, at least not as a starter.
 
Stonesy said:
This is the worst kind of decision-making that is why the English team has looked so crap for so long. Your answer is basically fill the team with grocks and withstand your way through the game. Osman made one error and that was getting caught on the ball for the 3rd goal, but he had been really good up until then. Some of his passes were lovely, with the kind of subtle craft that eludes most of our squad. The ball to Atsu, then the assist to Lukaku, and generally he kept possession really well.
For all Lukaku's strength, Osman is better and keeping hold of it in tight areas.
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Though a agree that Osman is a good player and technically very good I don't think we are good enough to accommodate a player like Osman in the team
and he's not a level above footballer to dominate matches
IE silva
Even coutinho struggles in the prem
Most teams in the prem especially in the midfield area are all about strength & power
And sadly Osman is to weak and slow to cope and at 33 he's getting slower & weaker
Sometimes you have to adapt to the team your playing
 

Stonesy said:
This is the worst kind of decision-making that is why the English team has looked so crap for so long. Your answer is basically fill the team with grocks and withstand your way through the game. Osman made one error and that was getting caught on the ball for the 3rd goal, but he had been really good up until then. Some of his passes were lovely, with the kind of subtle craft that eludes most of our squad. The ball to Atsu, then the assist to Lukaku, and generally he kept possession really well.
For all Lukaku's strength, Osman is better and keeping hold of it in tight areas.
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No mate, Darron Gibson is just as good technically.
 

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