Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
he nearly had Baines on the treatment table again! had enough of Osman time for him to catch the Pierhead bus.
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I thought he did well last night
Good hustle and imposed himself on the game from the minute he came on
I'm fine with him as a "Super Sub"
Good hustle and imposed himself on the game from the minute he came on
I'm fine with him as a "Super Sub"
because there is no comparison to be made, osman gives the ball away just as muck as kev, but is far less dangerous with the ball, what talents he has and they are few, are hideously overrated, his work rate is poor, he is cowardly in the tackle, he can't beat a man, his link up play isn't what people say, he never plays around corners, always straight back to his man or a dive, the amount of times baines got the ball and there was no one in front of him to link up with, osman should be in the ressies till he pisses off
Barkley is not "inexperienced" at all. He's played over 100 first team games for us, he's now an established senior player, he doesn't need a crippled Osman holding his hand anymore
Whistlin' Dixie
Player Valuation: £50m
So osman can be compared to both Mirallas AND Barkley?
Complaining about Mirallas losing possession's ok - IF osman kept possession any better. IF osman could withstand or even make a tackle. IF osman could run at any pace. IF osman could create anywhere near as much - and so on...
Stroll on
Sideliner
Player Valuation: £5m
When Martinez brought Osman on ahead of Mirallas and Lennon it - was not good for my blood pressure - to put it mildly.
Only Phil Neville has surpassed Osman in being off the pace and out of sorts in any recent Everton side -
i would even take Naismith ahead of him -
Martinez got away with one there -
How do you think Mirallas must have felt when Osman got the nod ahead of him ?
Martinez continues his public humiliation of Mirallas by playing inferior players ahead of him in his preferred position (my opinion)
i think Mirallas has received enough punishment(benching and late subs) for whatever he did - Martinez must now start treating him at face value or sell him immediately
Only Phil Neville has surpassed Osman in being off the pace and out of sorts in any recent Everton side -
i would even take Naismith ahead of him -
Martinez got away with one there -
How do you think Mirallas must have felt when Osman got the nod ahead of him ?
Martinez continues his public humiliation of Mirallas by playing inferior players ahead of him in his preferred position (my opinion)
i think Mirallas has received enough punishment(benching and late subs) for whatever he did - Martinez must now start treating him at face value or sell him immediately
Baines' left foot
Player Valuation: £90m
He's hardly featured this season so he's clearly being phased out of the team. He came on last night to fill a void and he did well. I'd never advocate him starting a game now unless it's against inferior opposition. I don't buy that he gives the ball away, some stats would be handy.
I really don't understand all the hate.
But no, a bunch of Internet lads know better than a Premier League football manager earning millions of pounds a year.
That's to all of you that have quoted me by the way. I'm going back to work because I've got an important job.
Whistlin' Dixie
Player Valuation: £50m
Nothing to disagree with there. Not a jot. Good points well made.
Even Besic (Who's generally thought of as a holding midfielder) has shown more pace and creativity in his last match and-a-half, than osman has in a season and-a-half (And longer)
right lads close the forum, managers can't be disagreed with
Do you? Mate, you should have mentioned it
Whistlin' Dixie
Player Valuation: £50m
Highly debatable term.
Edit: Ooops! Misread. Thought it said "Football player" (osman)
The Hibbert Agenda
Player Valuation: £20m
@Whistlin' Dixie the way you're sitting on this thread angrily disagreeing with everyone who think Ossie had a decent game last night. I dunno, it seems to me that maybe you might have an agenda.
Give it up - save it for when he has a poor game.
And yes yes I know
"Oh you call that a decent game? Oh how our standards have slipped that that's a decent game"
Shut up you bore
Give it up - save it for when he has a poor game.
And yes yes I know
"Oh you call that a decent game? Oh how our standards have slipped that that's a decent game"
Shut up you bore
The Hibbert Agenda
Player Valuation: £20m
Troll of the highest order
The Hibbert Agenda
Player Valuation: £20m
Don't waste your breath.
It's evident that for some people the mere fact that Osman appeared on the field ahead of other players was the problem.
Don't get me wrong – i was upset that Martinez brought him on ahead of Mirallas and was certain that he would struggle and result in us losing – as it panned out he had a very decent performance. Especially by his standards. And Martinez's choice to use him in the instance was justified.
No one here is advocating that he feature any more than he has been, but god forbid he receives some credit for putting in some good performances in his last season at the club as a senior.
Idiots on this forum.
Whistlin' Dixie
Player Valuation: £50m
Who says I'm angry? I'm not the one hurling the personal insults to those I disagree with
You say I am, but I can assure you that I'm positively zen, lad.
I don't need to dream up superlatives for some no mark, because I know what I seen. And it was a million miles away from the 'fine' game that you, and the rest of the sentimental apologists who just can't let go, think he had.
As I've already said - if that game he had last night passes for fine, then the bar's been st extremely low. I don't how what he has to do to have had a 'poor' game.
Maybe if he got involved a bit more, so when he was under the spotlight you'd see what the rest of us see.
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