Calvin Aldi
Player Valuation: £950k
Mbappes wages would destroy their structure. He gets something like 450 grand a week at PSG.
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Liverpool FC appreciation thread
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Diogenes the Cynic
Player Valuation: £40m
They spend that a week on wreaths.
artetas_biggest_fan
Player Valuation: £6m
70 points. And it’s January.
They have more league wins by January than the Man U treble team had in total.
They are 4 league wins from having more than the total number of wins by the Arsenal ”invincible” team.
Listening to the City vs United game on Five Live an update on the RS game mentioned Allison making a good save, and for me he’s every bit as big as Van Dijk in transforming them. I’ve often brought up the poor positional play of Pickford which means he often has to pull of a worldie of a save (often with one arm outstretched) or the ball goes past him as it’s out of his reach. This is in contrast to Allison, and an article in the Echo sums up why he’s so good.
His great positional play “means he doesn't have to make great saves.”
www.liverpoolecho.co.uk
This is definitely the one thing Jordan could learn by watching him. Great positional play can be worked on, the bigger problem for Jordan is his hyperactivity which is not something you can work on. You are either calm, composed and unaffected by your surroundings or you are not, and to be a top goalkeeper like Allison it’s vital you are.
They have more league wins by January than the Man U treble team had in total.
They are 4 league wins from having more than the total number of wins by the Arsenal ”invincible” team.
Listening to the City vs United game on Five Live an update on the RS game mentioned Allison making a good save, and for me he’s every bit as big as Van Dijk in transforming them. I’ve often brought up the poor positional play of Pickford which means he often has to pull of a worldie of a save (often with one arm outstretched) or the ball goes past him as it’s out of his reach. This is in contrast to Allison, and an article in the Echo sums up why he’s so good.
His great positional play “means he doesn't have to make great saves.”
Alisson doesn't make great saves - that's what makes him world class
The Liverpool goalkeeper makes everything, even in the most difficult of situations, look easy
This is definitely the one thing Jordan could learn by watching him. Great positional play can be worked on, the bigger problem for Jordan is his hyperactivity which is not something you can work on. You are either calm, composed and unaffected by your surroundings or you are not, and to be a top goalkeeper like Allison it’s vital you are.
artetas_biggest_fan
Player Valuation: £6m
Of all the records I’ve seen bandied about today, this one stands out for me:
Taken 100 points from the last 102 available.
It’s a surreal figure. It’s FIFA (or even better PES) cheat mode.
And the team doing it are on the verge of being champions of England, Europe and the world. They will have held the lot. There’s no “but they didn’t win such and such”. They are doing this having finished runners up with 97 points last season, and won the CL having got to the final the year before. They keep coming again and again.
Others have watched them plenty more than me (just twice live all season) and would be able to give better judgement, but from what i have seen they have perfect balance of attack and defence. Solid in goal, central defence, holding midfield, ultra attacking in the full back positions, press the life out of teams in midfield, and a front three that run riot (two fast wide players who also score for fun, and a creative maverick figure in between who also links the attack with the midfield). The sole thing they are lacking over other great sides is a world class attacking midfielder...but even then, Coutinho was that for them, but the balance was too attacking with him in the team, so they conceded more.
Flaws in other teams considered great are far more glaring.
The City team under Pep can be flaky (the only coach with a better head to head record over Pep, Klopp’s teams have always caused his problems). Pep focuses heavily on ball retention as his best form of defence. An opponent that presses his teams gets the most joy by exposing that soft underbelly, which Klopp’s teams have consistently done. His Barca side (the best club team ever IMO), their defence was never a great one. Mascherano...a midget holding midfielder playing central defence, Valdes in nets, decent, but far from top class, Dani Alves...amazing in attack, but playing so high up often left space in behind, but just wasn’t exploited. Even Pique could look like Bambi on ice against a quick forward. In Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets Barca (and Spain) had arguably the greatest central midfield ever assembled...certainly the best at playing keep ball, meaning the backline was rarely called upon. Without that midfield though, a Pep team can be exposed (his Bayern side getting mauled in the CL, his Man City side losing 5-1 over two legs in the CL to the RS). As I said, Pep’s teams, never great defensively. No CL final appearance in almost a decade for him since Xavi and Iniesta took him there.
The Arsenal “invincibles” with their 12 draws and Pires diving for one of those. Again, similar to Pep, emphasis on attack. Soft underbelly. Routinely dumped out of the CL at the last 16 stage. Wenger inherited George Graham’s well drilled defence, which allied with his great attacking nous gave him the foundation for his first two league titles. For the defensive bedrock of the third and last one, Sol Campbell on a free came gift wrapped. He got away with a midfielder in Lauren playing in defence, not in the CL though. For the next 15 years he showed himself incapable of creating a solid defensive unit.
None of the United teams of the 90s I’d put in the same class of this Liverpool team, Pep’s City or ‘04 Arsenal, certainly not the early ones when the PL was largely just made up of domestic players and managers unlike today. Winning the league with 78 points where your challengers were the tactical might of Roy Evans, “I’d love it’ Keegan, big fat Ron, Howard Wilkinson etc. No wonder Fergie pissed it, during which time he got schooled by Cruyff (4-0 hiding stands out), Lippi, Hitzfeld and Capello in the CL. Fergie vs Klopp, Pep and co is a different ball game to Evans, Keegan, Fat Ron et al. The best United side was 2008, but it would need to be combined with the late 90s midfield to get Fergie’s best XI.
Statistics and trophies say this RS side is the best from these isles (certainly in the PL era). Mentioned before but they have so many similarities with AC Milan of the early 90s, RS last three seasons, 1.CL Finalists, 2.CL winners (PL 97 pts), 3.25 PL games unbeaten 24 wins. They haven’t lost a 2 legged European tie in 4 years, and are unbeaten at home in the league since April 2017. Home, abroad, they do it. It’s the same machine like characteristic of that Milan side.
Taken 100 points from the last 102 available.
It’s a surreal figure. It’s FIFA (or even better PES) cheat mode.
And the team doing it are on the verge of being champions of England, Europe and the world. They will have held the lot. There’s no “but they didn’t win such and such”. They are doing this having finished runners up with 97 points last season, and won the CL having got to the final the year before. They keep coming again and again.
Others have watched them plenty more than me (just twice live all season) and would be able to give better judgement, but from what i have seen they have perfect balance of attack and defence. Solid in goal, central defence, holding midfield, ultra attacking in the full back positions, press the life out of teams in midfield, and a front three that run riot (two fast wide players who also score for fun, and a creative maverick figure in between who also links the attack with the midfield). The sole thing they are lacking over other great sides is a world class attacking midfielder...but even then, Coutinho was that for them, but the balance was too attacking with him in the team, so they conceded more.
Flaws in other teams considered great are far more glaring.
The City team under Pep can be flaky (the only coach with a better head to head record over Pep, Klopp’s teams have always caused his problems). Pep focuses heavily on ball retention as his best form of defence. An opponent that presses his teams gets the most joy by exposing that soft underbelly, which Klopp’s teams have consistently done. His Barca side (the best club team ever IMO), their defence was never a great one. Mascherano...a midget holding midfielder playing central defence, Valdes in nets, decent, but far from top class, Dani Alves...amazing in attack, but playing so high up often left space in behind, but just wasn’t exploited. Even Pique could look like Bambi on ice against a quick forward. In Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets Barca (and Spain) had arguably the greatest central midfield ever assembled...certainly the best at playing keep ball, meaning the backline was rarely called upon. Without that midfield though, a Pep team can be exposed (his Bayern side getting mauled in the CL, his Man City side losing 5-1 over two legs in the CL to the RS). As I said, Pep’s teams, never great defensively. No CL final appearance in almost a decade for him since Xavi and Iniesta took him there.
The Arsenal “invincibles” with their 12 draws and Pires diving for one of those. Again, similar to Pep, emphasis on attack. Soft underbelly. Routinely dumped out of the CL at the last 16 stage. Wenger inherited George Graham’s well drilled defence, which allied with his great attacking nous gave him the foundation for his first two league titles. For the defensive bedrock of the third and last one, Sol Campbell on a free came gift wrapped. He got away with a midfielder in Lauren playing in defence, not in the CL though. For the next 15 years he showed himself incapable of creating a solid defensive unit.
None of the United teams of the 90s I’d put in the same class of this Liverpool team, Pep’s City or ‘04 Arsenal, certainly not the early ones when the PL was largely just made up of domestic players and managers unlike today. Winning the league with 78 points where your challengers were the tactical might of Roy Evans, “I’d love it’ Keegan, big fat Ron, Howard Wilkinson etc. No wonder Fergie pissed it, during which time he got schooled by Cruyff (4-0 hiding stands out), Lippi, Hitzfeld and Capello in the CL. Fergie vs Klopp, Pep and co is a different ball game to Evans, Keegan, Fat Ron et al. The best United side was 2008, but it would need to be combined with the late 90s midfield to get Fergie’s best XI.
Statistics and trophies say this RS side is the best from these isles (certainly in the PL era). Mentioned before but they have so many similarities with AC Milan of the early 90s, RS last three seasons, 1.CL Finalists, 2.CL winners (PL 97 pts), 3.25 PL games unbeaten 24 wins. They haven’t lost a 2 legged European tie in 4 years, and are unbeaten at home in the league since April 2017. Home, abroad, they do it. It’s the same machine like characteristic of that Milan side.
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the sniderman
Player Valuation: £40m
it is an interesting claim that you make about them being the best ever team to play the game buddy. v bold of u.
u ok mate?
Westend Blue
Player Valuation: £15m
way off the mark both united triple PL teams are better than this current liverpool side
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
You have to hand it to them, if that was us we'd have been in dreamland now. It is an unreal sequence of results. Klopp is a great manager and with the dip of the other teams they are there at the right time to pick up the pieces.
That should have been us around the time Leicester won the league but instead of improving on the 72 points we spectacularly dropped off.
That should have been us around the time Leicester won the league but instead of improving on the 72 points we spectacularly dropped off.
100 points from 102, this will go down as the greatest team ever.
the golden visionary
Player Valuation: £35m
Theyre not bad at all. Its more to do with klopp than anything else. I dont mind admitting hes a great manager, ive never heard him say anything really belittling toward us, its not like when Benitez was in charge the slob.
This shows what a great manager with a plan, and a proper transfer policy can do given time and support, fergie won the league with the worst squad ever, he was also a great manager. I think klopps that level.
Right, i need a bath and to wash my mouth out before im outed as a secret kopite
This shows what a great manager with a plan, and a proper transfer policy can do given time and support, fergie won the league with the worst squad ever, he was also a great manager. I think klopps that level.
Right, i need a bath and to wash my mouth out before im outed as a secret kopite
TrachyBlue
Player Valuation: £5m
This thread is a disgrace. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
This Shiite still going ?
Alan Whittle
Player Valuation: £60m
1. That they are offended by everything and embarrassed by nothing?
2. That they flout the rules and conventions of domestic cup competitions and still loudly and repeatedly claim they are the victims?
3. That the media is dominated by their drooling acolytes inflating their one good PL season into something resembling the Second Coming?
4. All of the above?
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