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Lukaku. Yes or no

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Anyway, there’s no point in carrying this on. You’re diverting the argument away from Lukaku vs Tosun to whether Lukaku offers enough in the build up to play for an elite team.

While suggesting that it’s me who doesn’t understand football because I think moving to Inter Milan for £80m and scoring 39 goals in 57 games makes you better than being on loan in Turkey because you’re not good enough for a team who had Sigurdsson up front on Wednesday.

Enjoy the rest of your day.
 

DanEFC92 said:
Tosun might be the worst striker I've seen play for us so this is amusing.
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Oumar thanks you for your continued support.
 
Kurt. said:
Wow ..... some bout this .... that’s a magnificent hook delivered by Azz..... Not sure Tubey can come back from this... he’s taking a standing count ....
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I don't need to. Point on Lukaku has been proven over and over again, hence how I predicted how his entire career would go from when he was in an Everton shirt.

Azzurri is right in one respect - Lukaku is, clearly, a more effective footballer at lower levels than Tosun. They're both not good enough for the elite level. A player of Tosun's ilk, but improved in absolutely every single way, would be good enough for the elite level - e.g. Calvert-Lewin. But an improved Lukaku - who scored more goals but that's it - wouldn't be.

So, to sum up my argument, if in 2018 I was given the choice, as a manager of a club to try and push on and break the top four, between Lukaku and Tosun, I'd have picked Tosun. I'd have been wrong, but I'd have been wrong for the right reasons. If that's hard to understand, so be it.
 
Lukaku is gash. The fact he looks like his first trophy will be at the age of 28 yet he's already played for united and Chelsea says it all. And don't say he's going to be a late bloomer his knees have got about 3 years before they implode in on themselves.

He could have and should have been a world cup or at least a European championship winner but he decides to do his vanishing act in any game of actual importance. Top goalscorer on his day but in the pantheon of greats he doesn't even register.
 

Tubey said:
I don't need to. Point on Lukaku has been proven over and over again, hence how I predicted how his entire career would go from when he was in an Everton shirt.

Azzurri is right in one respect - Lukaku is, clearly, a more effective footballer at lower levels than Tosun. They're both not good enough for the elite level. A player of Tosun's ilk, but improved in absolutely every single way, would be good enough for the elite level - e.g. Calvert-Lewin. But an improved Lukaku - who scored more goals but that's it - wouldn't be.

So, to sum up my argument, if in 2018 I was given the choice, as a manager of a club to try and push on and break the top four, between Lukaku and Tosun, I'd have picked Tosun. I'd have been wrong, but I'd have been wrong for the right reasons. If that's hard to understand, so be it.
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Ah, I see your point now.

If Tosun was improved in every single way he’d be better at football.

Why didn’t you just say that?
 
Tubey said:
I don't need to. Point on Lukaku has been proven over and over again, hence how I predicted how his entire career would go from when he was in an Everton shirt.

Azzurri is right in one respect - Lukaku is, clearly, a more effective footballer at lower levels than Tosun. They're both not good enough for the elite level. A player of Tosun's ilk, but improved in absolutely every single way, would be good enough for the elite level - e.g. Calvert-Lewin. But an improved Lukaku - who scored more goals but that's it - wouldn't be.

So, to sum up my argument, if in 2018 I was given the choice, as a manager of a club to try and push on and break the top four, between Lukaku and Tosun, I'd have picked Tosun. I'd have been wrong, but I'd have been wrong for the right reasons. If that's hard to understand, so be it.
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Azzurri said:
Ah, I see your point now.

If Tosun was improved in every single way he’d be better at football.

Why didn’t you just say that?
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I have, repeatedly. Tosun was lacking in every area, but the idea of Tosun was the correct one.

Whereas Lukaku has worse technical ability than Tosun but is so ridiculously better in a few aspects of his game that, as a 'glass cannon' type of footballer, is far more effective than Tosun.

So an 'improved version' of Tosun - like we see with Calvert-Lewin - is by several magnitudes the superior option as a footballer to Lukaku. Unfortunately, Tosun wasn't it, but if he was in Italy now (or Turkey, as he is), he'll look a world beater at the level he's at.
 

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