Luke Garbutt

Try to keep him, or let him leave ?

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hetion said:
This would be good beyond the obvious fact of him sticking around. Times like these it's good for morale for young talented players to be showing faith in the club. Totally different level of magnitude obviously, but look at Reus signing an extension for Dortmund while they were bottom of the table.
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catcherintherye said:
Howard Kendall wrote some nice things about him today. Basically said he is better than Luke Shaw, which I agree with.

Fantastic left foot. Like Stones before him needs to work in the defensive side of his game and become more aggressive. In trying conditions done very well though.
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Yeah totally agree with this, listening to some he's already the new Maldini.

Stands off his man far too much for my liking but will learn and I really hope he stays as his potential is great. He can go off and play first team footy or stay and learn from one of the best exponents of attacking full back play the PL has seen. Sadly, I think if he had any intention of staying he's have signed a long time ago. EFC hold no cards here and I think RM knows he's off hence used him sparingly.
 

MickA said:
Yeah totally agree with this, listening to some he's already the new Maldini.

Stands off his man far too much for my liking but will learn and I really hope he stays as his potential is great. He can go off and play first team footy or stay and learn from one of the best exponents of attacking full back play the PL has seen. Sadly, I think if he had any intention of staying he's have signed a long time ago. EFC hold no cards here and I think RM knows he's off hence used him sparingly.
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I thought he was off, but he's been brought back in and used when Hibbert was played before.

I think there's an outside chance he'll stay. He probably wants to wait until the end of the season though. I think if Martinez goes he will go too.
 
I hope he stays because he's got the potential to be very good but as it stands he'd be my third choice. Some people probably disagree but regardless he's definitely not good enough yet to be holding us over a barrel over his first proper contract. He's only played a handful of games.
 
MickA said:
Yeah totally agree with this, listening to some he's already the new Maldini.

Stands off his man far too much for my liking but will learn
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I honestly think this is a coaching thing because Baines does the same. I've said it before but Joe Royle said that he, Kendall and Harvey all said they prefer Pat Van Den Hauwe over Baines because Pat used to stop crosses and Baines never has.
 
Little Ralphy said:
I honestly think this is a coaching thing because Baines does the same. I've said it before but Joe Royle said that he, Kendall and Harvey all said they prefer Pat Van Den Hauwe over Baines because Pat used to stop crosses and Baines never has.
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Yeah you could well be right. The full backs never seemed to be breaking a limb to block crosses throughout Moyes reign also which suggests a preference to just let the CB's deal.
 
Little Ralphy said:
I honestly think this is a coaching thing because Baines does the same. I've said it before but Joe Royle said that he, Kendall and Harvey all said they prefer Pat Van Den Hauwe over Baines because Pat used to stop crosses and Baines never has.
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Agreed they both seem to be defending in the no mans land between the 6 and 18 yd box
 

Think Baines has always played this way, but Oviedo and Coleman when they first joined used to show the man down the line then snap into a tackle. Now they too back off their men. Think the logic is if you retreat its difficult for the winger to go past you and you can recover if he cuts in to have a shot. I don't rate it though because it allows a winger time to just pick out anyone he wants in the box. A real top full back would take up a position to block the cross then back himself if the winger tried to take him on.
 
We do look very susceptible to crosses to be fair. We have an awful combination. Full backs who don't prevent the ball coming in enough. Wide midfielders who don't always track back. Centre backs who are not the most imposing. A goalkeeper who can't claim crosses, and an inability to mark people tightly. It's a woeful combination.
 
MoutsGoat said:
Do you have a link to this?
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It was at Goodison when he did an after dinner thing a few years ago.

They had a 'game' where as a table you had to pick your best ever Everton side based on a selection of players for each position. If your table's agreed to Joe's then you won something. Everyone did it and then he stood up and justified each selection he made.

That always stuck out what he said about Baines and PVDH because I'd always wondered about crosses etc. and also cos it showed that 3 ex-Everton managers still get together and talk Everton.

As an after dinner speaker I thought Joe was pretty good and his love for the club shone through every story he told. Afterwards he was sound as well and one of the lads we were with was related to someone Joe played a few games with in his early career at Everton and Joe knew loads about this bloke.

January 2012 it was just checked.
 
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All our players/defenders stand off instead of committing. And we don't press.

We have done both these things in the past so this is certainly something there being asked to do by the management.
 

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