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Man City v Everton. 13th Jan at 1945.

Oh Manchester is....


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We are capable as well eggs of going there and slotting a goal or 2. I think our lads would have enjoyed that 2nd half test last night just to give them a little taste if what may be around the corner.

Spot on. Sometimes, a team having to dig in, as a team, can be more rewarding to them as a 6 0 thrashing of someone. Weird psycho gubbins, but true.
 
We are capable as well eggs of going there and slotting a goal or 2. I think our lads would have enjoyed that 2nd half test last night just to give them a little taste if what may be around the corner.

.....agree, we have a threat and I think/hope the game will be more important for our lads. I certainly thought that was the case at Goodison where we had a bit more intensity.
 
It's a tough job, so why not help them make the right decisions? If each team could have 1 review per game, that goes to a team of 3 former referees (like they do in numerous other sports), they stop the clock whilst it's being decided etc I don't see how anyone could have a problem with that?

I'm sure every team has spells of bad luck with refereeing decisions, but because we usually have more possession in and around the other teams box I think we get a few more bad decisions then most. Over the course of a season it could come end up being 10+ points worth of bad decisions which is the difference between 1st and 2nd!

Maybe I'm paranoid...
Maybe you do have a lot of possession in and (mostly around) the other teams box, which has been evident in both the recent games against us, but just passing the ball from one side of the field to the other and back again doesn't result in a win, and doesn't mean you deserve any reward. And just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you :bye::bye::bye::bye:
 

An interesting thing that used to happen in Manchester during the 50's and 60's was fans from both clubs supporting each other.

After Old Trafford was bombed in WW2 City let them use Maine Road and contributed to their best attendances, there was a culture of one week we'll watch City, the next United. Everyone had their team, but the other half was their second, that soured in the late 60's and hasn't gone back since.

Out of curiosity was their anything similar in Liverpool? It's always referred to as the friendly derby so I'm presuming there must have been some of it back then, before away travel became more popular.
When I lived in Liverpool I used to go to Anfield when we were away, and I know that others did but that was when you just
rolled up and paid at the turnstile. That was when going to an away match was like going on your holidays - a major operation.

I've no idea if people still do but it's not as simple now. I mean you can't just decide to go at half past one, can you?
 
I read somewhere and it could be a load of rubbish, that we are the only team to have over a 50,000 average home attendances in one full season.

This was before arsenal moved to the Emirates, and united extended old Trafford. So probably pre 1990?

Other than United and Arsenal in recent years:

Newcastle United 56,283 1948
Spurs 55,509 1951
Everton 51,603 1963

Man City's highest was 47,075 in 2014.

Also Manchester United 1967/68, after the construction for the World Cup; Average home league attendance 57,790,
 
What caused the feelings to sour? I obviously remember the law man's back heel to send them down but that was 74 wasnt it?
To be honest, I couldn't tell you! My grandad hated united, but said he used to go and watch them when he was growing up, I used to ask him why he hated them now and he said it was because of how arrogant they'd become over the years. (If he was still about now, he'd probably hate a few City fans! :D)
 

To be honest, I couldn't tell you! My grandad hated united, but said he used to go and watch them when he was growing up, I used to ask him why he hated them now and he said it was because of how arrogant they'd become over the years. (If he was still about now, he'd probably hate a few City fans! :D)
I know it used to be a regular thing for people to go watch Everton and the RS on alternative weeks though I had an uncle who went to anfield once for the derby match, came home burnt his shoes and vowed never to set foot in there again and he never did, wouldn't even watch them at goodison
 
As others have mentioned, plenty of people used to watch Everton one week then Liverpoo the next. (similar in Manchester or anywhere else that has two 'local' clubs)
Football was very affordable then and was an integral part of many working class men's weekends. Work all week, look forward to the football on Saturday.
Travel however was relatively difficult and those that didn't want to go to the trouble and extra expense of following their favoured team to away matches could still get to see a live game every weekend.
On another note, programmes could only be obtained at the match, (pre war they could only be bought inside the actual ground) which is what originally made them collectible and is why pre-war programmes are so highly sought after.
These days for many people (me included) going to the game is sadly, an occasional treat rather than a regular part of every weekend.
 
As others have mentioned, plenty of people used to watch Everton one week then Liverpoo the next. (similar in Manchester or anywhere else that has two 'local' clubs)
Football was very affordable then and was an integral part of many working class men's weekends. Work all week, look forward to the football on Saturday.
Travel however was relatively difficult and those that didn't want to go to the trouble and extra expense of following their favoured team to away matches could still get to see a live game every weekend.

Many men and women worked on Saturday mornings, so travel to away matches was difficult. (Stoke were well-known for their 3.15 kick-offs.)

Crowds must have been mainly home fans then. Before WWII, few working class people could afford a car. Travel to away games must have increased as Saturday morning working decreased and car-ownership increased. The construction of the motorway network - from 1958 onwards - would have helped a lot.
 
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As others have mentioned, plenty of people used to watch Everton one week then Liverpoo the next. (similar in Manchester or anywhere else that has two 'local' clubs)
Football was very affordable then and was an integral part of many working class men's weekends. Work all week, look forward to the football on Saturday.
Travel however was relatively difficult and those that didn't want to go to the trouble and extra expense of following their favoured team to away matches could still get to see a live game every weekend.
On another note, programmes could only be obtained at the match, (pre war they could only be bought inside the actual ground) which is what originally made them collectible and is why pre-war programmes are so highly sought after.
These days for many people (me included) going to the game is sadly, an occasional treat rather than a regular part of every weekend.
Cheers for that kev, never understood why pre war progs where tastier for people....mystery solved, again cheers KTF
 
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