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Man City v Everton. 13th Jan at 1945.

Oh Manchester is....

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Jamo Martinez said:
Are you saying bad decisions going against you?
Because a few Real Madrid fans I know have used that same argument to justify the 'bad' decisions going their way.
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Yes, it's all swings and roundabouts but recently it feels like we're getting more than our fair share of bad decisions!
 
The Esk said:
Other than United and Arsenal in recent years:

Newcastle United 56,283 1948
Spurs 55,509 1951
Everton 51,603 1963

Man City's highest was 47,075 in 2014.
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An interesting thing that used to happen in Manchester during the 50's and 60's was fans from both clubs supporting each other.

After Old Trafford was bombed in WW2 City let them use Maine Road and contributed to their best attendances, there was a culture of one week we'll watch City, the next United. Everyone had their team, but the other half was their second, that soured in the late 60's and hasn't gone back since.

Out of curiosity was their anything similar in Liverpool? It's always referred to as the friendly derby so I'm presuming there must have been some of it back then, before away travel became more popular.
 
82' min Yayas tackle on Baines.....ffs. clear foul but ref didnt react. Have watched this 10 times and it looks like we had bad luck in that respect...city player (looks like it was Navas) blocked refs visibility. Free kick would have been from perfect spot.
 

Manc said:
An interesting thing that used to happen in Manchester during the 50's and 60's was fans from both clubs supporting each other.

After Old Trafford was bombed in WW2 City let them use Maine Road and contributed to their best attendances, there was a culture of one week we'll watch City, the next United. Everyone had their team, but the other half was their second, that soured in the late 60's and hasn't gone back since.

Out of curiosity was their anything similar in Liverpool? It's always referred to as the friendly derby so I'm presuming there must have been some of it back then, before away travel became more popular.
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What caused the feelings to sour? I obviously remember the law man's back heel to send them down but that was 74 wasnt it?
 
Manc said:
I thought Everton were good again last night, completely different performance to the first leg, tight, compact and organised. We played alright as well, but you contained us for a large period of the game and on another day could have robbed it at the end! Yesterday was the type of game were we could have done with Dzeko in our team, it would have given us another option rather than pass the ball to Navas so he can cross the ball along the floor and let your defense clear it easily.

I thought, had Aguero been less honest we could have had a penalty when he was through 1 on 1 in the second half, he was getting wrestled but still managed a shot. He should have gone down and possibly got your man sent off!

Anyone who thinks Sterlings claim wasn't a penalty is completely deluded. It was stonewall, I'm starting to think a few of these referees must have been raised on Merseyside. Hopefully we'll get a more consistent referee in the second leg who doesn't go out of his way to try and secure the media w*nkfest of a scouse derby final.


Anyway, back from the sore-drawers mentality: hope you guys enjoyed your day out. Traffic was [Poor language removed], but has been for every night game this season (and people wonder why no-one can be bothered going) if you're coming to the semi final make sure you set off early cause it will be exactly the same as that in a few weeks time. How they didn't postpone kick off is beyond me.
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I can guarantee the media would absolutely love a Man City/Liverpool final. We happen to be from the same city as them and that's it, as long as they're in the final and they can pre-write Klipp-Klopp-Krap then they'll be made up. Don't kid yourself that anyone other than us gives two hoots about Everton getting to Wembley.
 
Manc said:
Technically yes, it's our ground now. Initially we had to pay a £2m per year fee to 'rent' the stadium with an added percentage of our ticket sales being payed to Manchester council. The council also had the right to organise a number of concerts during the 'out season'. Since mansour has come he's made a deal with Manchester council to pay one 'lump sum' to take control of the stadium, we have a Leasehold of over 200 years for the stadium.

It really has been a win/win for everyone involved. City have moved from an incredibly old, run down stadium to a state of the art facility which put us on the market for global investors. Manchester City Council got to host the common wealth games because they had a suitable anchor tenant, The tax payers who've forked out a few million pounds have been more than refunded for it via the investment it's brought to the country and the residents of East Manchester have had a transformation of their neighborhood. Just as an added bonus, over 90% of the work being done around the Etihad campus is performed by local residents.

The Commonwealth stadium has arguably had the biggest impact on Manchester since the ship canal was built and non of it could have been done without Manchester City FC.
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Two ways for Everton and any others to look at this: Green eyes or lessons learned.

Fair play - Manchester has had an agenda for years with redevelopment of Eastlands via Commonwealth Games and the relocation of BBC (scarcely mentioned above). Fans and local community are some of the 'deserving' (intended) recipients of the investment - being an important part of it's economic survival. However from a City perspective, none of it was done in the knowledge of view of what is essentially a charitable contribution (in financial and footballing success terms), from the owners - the legacy of which is very much TBC. Hopefully positive.

Liverpool's regeneration of Albert Docks was similarly successful, without a Commonwealth Games style investment. Anything similar in Kirkby would deliver the same success in an arguably stronger city tourist destination, too. So that potential for Liverpool as a City and Everton as a club is very much live and kicking. I hope we hand it to the right people at the right price.

I've thought for a while something like the Commonwealth Games would be well-shared amongst Sunderland, Middlesbrough and Newcastle to the same effect culturally and economically as Manchester. I'm not sure it would deliver the kind of footballing legacy though.
 
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Agree with most of that, but it's the chicken and the egg thing here. City, probably, wouldn't have gotten any investment if it wasn't for the fact that the stadium was built for the commonwealth games. Had the games been awarded elsewhere we could be seeing Hull city or Coventry City in the champions league. Just like the Olympic stadium in east London and the debate about who should have it as their home ground, it's just right place right time.
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Total luck.
 

Good game against two evenly matched teams.

I did think it was a pen at the end there to be honest and I thought for one horrible moment it was gonna be given.

I'll take a repeat of that scoreline next week please!!
 

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