Maybe not Joe Royle, but Yes I would but you have to understand this is not kneejerking, if you look through the Martinez mask thread I have been consistent even last season I call it how I see it, I don't say things for the likes like some I say it because I firmly believe it, that style of play is not good enough in the league, the better teams in this league will just beat us and the weaker teams will sit back and know that we won't create, we are currently wasting the best squad of my Everton supporting lifetime in my opinion. This season is at this point a write off, if we win the next 7 games you wont hear from me but we won't and you will, its not good enough, even under moyes we created chances 1 this game nothing against spurs but a wonder goal nothing against hull after we scored west ham we had a great etoo chance other than the 2 goals we cant get by on 2 or 3 chances a game and the reason for that is we build so slowly we allow teams to get into position and stop us.