Managerial recruitment strategy

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

In an attempt to look at the manager's position beyond whether senor Benitez is right or wrong as an individual for Everton, I'd like to open a debate on the club's overarching strategy.

We appear to have cycled our way through the experienced (Smith), young up and coming (Moyes), up and coming / performed well (okay, not all will agree, but for arguments sake) at another club (Martinez), through to ones who performed well(ish) at rivals (Koeman & Silva), before back to experienced trophy snafflers of yesterday (Ancelotti and Benitez). Allardyce was slotted in a weird panic over relegation and to this day means I can't enjoy gravy on a roast.

To me, on the surface, our strategy seems scattershot. There may be an argument the club recruited to current context.

Anyway, what profile of manager should Everton be aiming to recruit in our current situation? Thoughts please.

 

[Eggs]

….this is all about being progressive or being safe. Clearly there’s been too much managerial turmoil so Moshiri wants a safe pair of hand whilst the new ground is developed.

I expect that strategy will change.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Ultimately depends on the current squad. We needed someone like Benitez to build the foundations which have been shatttered post Moyes.

If we were sat here with the team from Martinez's first season full of pace and power I completely would understand those shouting to give someone like Potter a chance even if I disagreed.

This squad would have eaten a novice like him up for breakfast.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

….this is all about being progressive or being safe. Clearly there’s been too much managerial turmoil so Moshiri wants a safe pair of hand whilst the new ground is developed.

I expect that strategy will change.

Do you think we'll end up in a similar place to Arsenal in Wengers mid to end years? They kind of trod water. Always got champions league, but never truly threatened? I guess for us that would be holding 6-12th.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Ultimately depends on the current squad. We needed someone like Benitez to build the foundations which have been shatttered post Moyes.

If we were sat here with the team from Martinez's first season full of pace and power I completely would understand those shouting to give someone like Potter a chance even if I disagreed.

This squad would have eaten a novice like him up for breakfast.

That's an interesting point. They do seem to have an amazing knack of testing the motivational powers of managers. Having said that, I recall Moyes saying he felt nervous going into Everton at the prospect of getting 'stars' like Ginola and Big Dunc to respect and listen to him.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

That's an interesting point. They do seem to have an amazing knack of testing the motivational powers of managers. Having said that, I recall Moyes saying he felt nervous going into Everton at the prospect of getting 'stars' like Ginola and Big Dunc to respect and listen to him.

Its not even just the mentality side of the players mate - we have no right hand side, no decent back up striker, no pace in the midfield, team can barely string two passes together.

Until the recruitment is improved and the manager can start to lay the foundations then we cant be giving this job to a novice manager imo especially with the new stadium under construction.

Benitez for all his faults is thick skinned and experienced - he wont cave in under fan pressure if we go on a mini run of poor results whereas the likes of Silva and Koeman capitulated under the pressure.

 

[The binman chronicles]

You should always try and get the best person for the job who is available at the time and that wants to come. Could be young (Jose after Porto, Pep after Barca), could have lots of experience (Conte/Mancini/Jose now).

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

You should always try and get the best person for the job who is available at the time and that wants to come. Could be young (Jose after Porto, Pep after Barca), could have lots of experience (Conte/Mancini/Jose now).

I can't argue with that in principle, but I think the challenge with the current hot property (Conte & Mancini) is if we could a) afford them and b) whether the club's profile is enough for them. The afford issue may seem odd, bit itvisbt just their salary, also the backroom team demands and transfer budget.

 

[Eggs]

Do you think we'll end up in a similar place to Arsenal in Wengers mid to end years? They kind of trod water. Always got champions league, but never truly threatened? I guess for us that would be holding 6-12th.

…I think so, Matey. I can see us having good spells of form and bad spells of form. I think we’ll have some decent victories and shocking defeats. I think we’ll be in no-man’s land with the hope we can win a domestic cup. In the meantime we can watch the stadium grow on the banks of the Mersey.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Its not even just the mentality side of the players mate - we have no right hand side, no decent back up striker, no pace in the midfield, team can barely string two passes together.

Until the recruitment is improved and the manager can start to lay the foundations then we cant be giving this job to a novice manager imo especially with the new stadium under construction.

Benitez for all his faults is thick skinned and experienced - he wont cave in under fan pressure if we go on a mini run of poor results whereas the likes of Silva and Koeman capitulated under the pressure.

At the risk of flippancy, sounds like the conditions under which Moyes could thrive!

 

[ForeverBlue92]

At the risk of flippancy, sounds like the conditions under which Moyes could thrive!

And Moyes and Benitez are very similiar managers...

 

[Terrarian]

I feel like we pin names to a dartboard and play best of 3

 

[coleman=quality]

Do you think we'll end up in a similar place to Arsenal in Wengers mid to end years? They kind of trod water. Always got champions league, but never truly threatened? I guess for us that would be holding 6-12th.

I wish we did end up like arsenal he never finished lower than 6th and that was only his last season. 9-12th is poor 6/7th isn’t bad I’d be happy with a couple of consecutive 6/7th place finishes and hopefully build on that to push for champions league. I’d be happy with any silverwear I mean even the papa john’s trophy would do

 

[Bohemian Toffee]

I don't think the pendulum effect of swinging between managerial profiles and styles is exclusive to Everton. Many clubs have swung from one extreme to another and some, like Chelsea, have won either because or in spite of it.

If you have a board with a clear vision of what they want to achieve and the right appointments within the set up of the club then managerial appointments are not the be-all and end-all that it's become here. But, the era of managers staying with clubs for an era and building something is passing. Part of the appeal of the 'up and comer' is that they'll answer the managerial question for a period of time by staying with the club and winning trophies over a period of time. I suspect that any up and comer we poached would be tapped up within a couple of seasons anyway.

My preference for Galtier was based on his profile of committing to a club for a period of time.

Everton have spent over £20m on a player 19 times to achieve mediocrity. For the sake of comparison, Spurs 12 times, Arsenal 12 times, Leicester 10, West Ham 7. Fix the terrible recruitment strategy, starting with binning Brands first, then any GOT tactician could do the job.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I don't think the pendulum effect of swinging between managerial profiles and styles is exclusive to Everton. Many clubs have swung from one extreme to another and some, like Chelsea, have won either because or in spite of it.

If you have a board with a clear vision of what they want to achieve and the right appointments within the set up of the club then managerial appointments are not the be-all and end-all that it's become here. But, the era of managers staying with clubs for an era and building something is passing. Part of the appeal of the 'up and comer' is that they'll answer the managerial question for a period of time by staying with the club and winning trophies over a period of time. I suspect that any up and comer we poached would be tapped up within a couple of seasons anyway.

My preference for Galtier was based on his profile of committing to a club for a period of time.

Everton have spent over £20m on a player 19 times to achieve mediocrity. For the sake of comparison, Spurs 12 times, Arsenal 12 times, Leicester 10, West Ham 7. Fix the terrible recruitment strategy, starting with binning Brands first, then any GOT tactician could do the job.

You've got the job. What's your salary expectations. There's also a cannon allowance for firing the deadwood at all levels out of.