Managerial recruitment strategy

[ilikecheese]

Since we have no say it's time to choke it down and get on with it.

 

[TheBigIguana]

….this is all about being progressive or being safe. Clearly there’s been too much managerial turmoil so Moshiri wants a safe pair of hand whilst the new ground is developed.

I expect that strategy will change.

He's overestimating the level of safe that this is though. It could go horribly wrong.

 

[Martin Alvito]

He's overestimating the level of safe that this is though. It could go horribly wrong.

Absolutely. It's Benitez. This could go very sideways.

The debate, ultimately, is about preferences over risk. Those tend not to go well, because we're debating preferences. At best, those generally involve the participants learning that others have different preferences over risk, and learning to accept that about one another. At worst, those debates turn into ugly shouting matches, because the odds of one person convincing another person to change their preferences over risk aren't very good.

I tend to agree with @ForeverBlue92 that the club needs to be shaken up, and that Benitez is not a bad choice as that sort of manager goes. That won't make me like Benitez. At best, I'll accept that he's a necessary evil.

Most of the disagreement seems to center not on the proposition of whether or not the club needs to be shaken up, but rather over whether Benitez is a sound choice to be the person that shakes the club up.

 

[Caolam]

The fact that we have tried managers of all shapes and sizes and not one of them have been able to generate any sort of real success is the worrying issue. The new ground is going to hold the focus of the Board over the coming years, I think the appointment of Benitez and to some degree the transfer activity we are now seeing is a reflection of that. Consolidation may be our watchword for the next while.

 

[JLW]

The fact that we have tried managers of all shapes and sizes and not one of them have been able to generate any sort of real success is the worrying issue. The new ground is going to hold the focus of the Board over the coming years, I think the appointment of Benitez and to some degree the transfer activity we are now seeing is a reflection of that. Consolidation may be our watchword for the next while.

Yep the Benitez appointment and our rumoured signings are deffo telling us we’re back to the 40 point target again until the ground is built. Which tells me barring any catastrophe’s Benitez will see his contract out

 

[hktoffee]

Young, up and coming doesn’t work for this club.

Martinez and Silva some the lads have short term memories.

 

[Kev The Rat]

The fact that we have tried managers of all shapes and sizes and not one of them have been able to generate any sort of real success is the worrying issue. The new ground is going to hold the focus of the Board over the coming years, I think the appointment of Benitez and to some degree the transfer activity we are now seeing is a reflection of that. Consolidation may be our watchword for the next while.

theres always an excuse out there if you look hard enough.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Young, up and coming doesn’t work for this club.

Martinez and Silva some the lads have short term memories.

not seen an old, past it, kopite succeed here either .

 

[hktoffee]

not seen an old, past it, kopite succeed here either .

Don’t know yet a ball hasn’t been kicked.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Don’t know yet a ball hasn’t been kicked.

your post suggested that the issue was young and upcoming managers

how do you know that, when no veteran has succeeded either?

 

[hktoffee]

your post suggested that the issue was young and upcoming managers

how do you know that, when no veteran has succeeded either?

It’s opinion based on the history of recruitment here unless he was Moyes pre 2012. A bit similar why you like Bfs. Not everything is 1+1=2 and can be explained.

 

[Kev The Rat]

It’s opinion based on the history of recruitment here unless he was Moyes pre 2012. A bit similar why you like Bfs. Not everything is 1+1=2 and can be explained.

While BFS was needed at the time and I respected what he did, in no way was he a long term solution

You've omitted him and Koeman and Ancelotti - all experienced operators who achieved little/nothing.

There's no history of recruitment here that shows experienced managers are any more successful than young hungry managers, you are making it up.

 

[hippopotamus]

This is our managerial recruitment strategy.

 

[hktoffee]

While BFS was needed at the time in no way was he a long term solution

You've omitted him and Koeman and Ancelotti - all experienced operators who achieved little/nothing.

Actually the last major achievement was winning the cup in 1995.

Carlo was fine if you look in the perspective of his winning rate in the league. Bfs had done what he supposed to do. Koeman yes he failed like Rm and Ms.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Actually the last major achievement was winning the cup in 1995.

Carlo was fine if you look in the perspective of his winning rate in the league. Bfs had done what he supposed to do. Koeman yes he failed like Rm and Ms.

Win rate means nothing when you finish 10th.

Martinez and Silva actually have our highest finishes in the last 8 years, with the exception of one year of Koeman who had Lukaku playing at his best.